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Old 14-08-06, 06:29 PM
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Heeeeeelllllpppp Wireless internet

OK for once AOL isn't the problem and my wireless connection works with AOL just fine. Problem is my Belkin 125 wireless modem needs to ba within 5-6m of the USB pick up points for the networked computer. Even then sometimes the signal is dropped.

I want them in the kids room which is a good 10m away but you have to walk out of the bedroom down the hall and half way across the living room before it picks up the modem

Useless

SO will I be better off with hard cards on the wireless link? Are they more reliable / powerfully receivers?

If not is there any other way I can get this to work?

If no then is it possible to get a 30m earth net leed?

If so where from

I live in a single story house there are about 4 walls between my office and the kids room.

I am soooooo pissed off with the kid's using my office PC. Don't the little buggers realize the important stuff i have to do on YD

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Some of the newer ADSL modem/router combos (such as the Netgear ones) are 'Rangemax' which means that they have a number of different internal aerials, and can switch between them (and use more than 1 at once) to provide better signals.

Might be worth looking into.

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Sometimes there is interference on the channel your network is using. You should be able to change the channel, by logging into the router and trying other channels.

A good little application for seeing the noise or interference is NetStumbler ( download from http://www.netstumbler.com/downloads/ ) It will also show you networks your neighbours have, which may be interfering with yours.

This is also a useful tool for finding open WiFi points on the road with a laptop ( aka war-driving )
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Some of the newer ADSL modem/router combos (such as the Netgear ones) are 'Rangemax' which means that they have a number of different internal aerials, and can switch between them (and use more than 1 at once) to provide better signals.

Might be worth looking into.

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I have both a Netgear DG834G (Normal 'G' Type) and a Netgear DG834GT (Rangemax type).

The 'G' type is on my personal 8Mb Broadband.
The 'GT' type is on my business 2Mb Broadband.

The GT router is, er, shite. To put it mildly. And it was my own fault. I turned down a Cisco 857W to use this and I wished I hadn't.

I can get the G to work anywhere in the house and it's stable and reliable.

The GT drops and builds the connection all the time. It's just not reliable. If you watch the hypnotic lights it gets it's arse in a tizz and then drops and reconnects. No sodding use when you're trying to use a VPN.

Both are on massively different channels so they're not interfering with each other.

My recommendation is the funky new Linksys ones (WAG54GS). They ARE the dogs danglies, as the guts in them are the same as in the Cisco 857W routers which cost 4x the price and are a cheap way of getting a decent Cisco router.

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AFAIK Belkin stuff is renowned dog-doo.
My wireless card in the laptop drops the connection frequently and then reconnects.

You could try running your wireless router at a slower speed to see if it has a better range.

My Buffalo router is wireless "b" and "g" (802.11b and g)
the b is only 10mbps whilst g is 54mbps
the b signal range is better, whereas the g signal range drops off much sooner, so try setting it to b for extended range and see if that's more stable.

interference could also be the issue - especially if there are other houses nearby. They don't need to be using a wireless network device to affect you - we have a radio sender unit for the TV and it uses the same frequency range as wireless networks. Try the netstumbler thingy posted earlier.

And if you need to run an ethernet cable - either buy a roll of CAT5e, some terminators and a crimping tool for a DIY job, or find a friendly shop that'll make one up for you.
Wires can go more than 30m before the signal drops...
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And if you need to run an ethernet cable - either buy a roll of CAT5e, some terminators and a crimping tool for a DIY job, or find a friendly shop that'll make one up for you.
Wires can go more than 30m before the signal drops...
IMHO You'll be better off just buying a 30m cable from Misco, or somewhere like that, as the crimping tool will probably cost the same, if not more, than the pre-made cable.

94m is your limit for Cat6E (Gigabit) before you get speed loss due to collisions. Cat5 will run to about 127m (100Mb). Above that we use Fibre at work, and have the best part of 10km of fibre running all over the place in 8 and 10 core runs

As stuart says, loads of stuff runs on 2.4Ghz now;
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Agree with Bantam the linksys kit is good, imho the 2wire is a fair piece of equipment I run an old 10Mb ADSL/WIFI router and the range is fine. Distance 18M meters and 4 walls between that and a Linksys games adapter running an Xbox for media centre comms and games no problem.

The position of the wifi router with respect to some old CRT’s produces some interesting field fluctuations so maybe try moving the wifi hub a little and then check again.


I have also implemented a Belkin system for a mate, basically one of the 802.11 G models from PC world with usb dongle receivers on the PC’s and cards for the laptops works fine over a longer distance.

Do you have any other radiant sources in the vicinity e.g one of the TV wireless transmission units I have seen these cause problems due to frequency interference.
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I find that my wireless is a lot more stable when I have a computer connected on a cable as well.

Strange...
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