Configration of equipment.

[Mark]

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Quote[/b] ]Quote: from simon on 5:25 pm on Jan. 27, 2003

There is no point joining in mark you are dir and allways will be, so there is no tellin you, dir is the best and all others are strokes.
Simon

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No problem. I'm only trying to point out why when 'all' is considered, one way is better than the other. I'll stop now

Dive safe

Mark.

[Jay]

Interesting posts guys &nbsp;- pros and cons on both sides it seems. One thing puzzles me though - where in all this would I hang my bright yellow octopus reg?

[Jay retreats to a suitable distance to watch the whole thing blow ...]:fire:

[Dominic]

&quot;now your being picky, what if .&quot;

No more picky worrying about the right rolling off than worrying about the left doing the same. If one is a risk, both are a risk. Gurr's config ignores this.

&quot;you are diving on a wreck there are three of you one diver isnt too hot only done a few tri mix dives, 75m&quot;

Well, first off - they wouldn't be dumb enough to get into this situation in the first place. A few trimix dives and at 75 meters?? What happened to workup dives and gradual progression?

&quot;A. take him to the surface and get help, or B. inflate him to the surface and you and the other diver do you stops&quot;

I suspect that if he was unconscious but still breathing, the best option would be take him up at a controlled rate and do the stops.

If he's in too bad a situation to wait that long, you make an assessment: Are you willing to risk missing your stops to take him up at a controlled rate?

If yes, ascend at the appropriate rate.

If not... well, probably time to send up an emergency SMB with a message on the slate calling for your surface cover to come and get him, and then you do the rest of your stops while he gets recovered by the rest of the team.

[Davey Willo]

Oi Simon stop winding people up you muppet... ;)

Does Karen know you're up this late??

See ya soon mate, and remember if it ain't broke don't fix it..

[Mark Chase]

I read Mr Gurrs book and thaught it rather good.

He uses a bungied stow for the long hose and dose a tempory hog wrap for re stowing after tempory deployment. I do this too as I dont like the Hog loop.

I see this as being a rare occurance as I have had to deploy several times but never had to re stow the rig during the dive apart from on training dives.

Saying this is wrong and that if you use a tempory hog loop why not use one all the time is daft. Things you do in responce to an emergancy are not thing that you generaly do during a dive are they.

I also dont see the problem with a roled off valve. If you lose half the twin set on a single presure gauge one of two things will happen. Your presure gauge wont moove or it will moove far too quickley. In eather case a simple valve check or back up reg check will identifie the problem. The one people miss is leaving the central isolator closed coz then both regs still work.

A 75m deep dive will include travel gas and deco gas and the diver should be able to bail out to a travel stage at any point in the dive.


The hog loop is just another damed hose across my chest getting in the way. IMHO

All in all each to his own

all the best,

Mark Chase

[Ian Murray]

An explanation for breathing the long hose (for anyone who's not read it before) is at

http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/text/HOGARTH3.TXT

along with lots of other good stuff well worth reading.

taken from the text:

The reason the out-of-air diver gets the reg from your mouth is because a) you both know it works - you were just breathing from it, and b) in a silt out, he/she may not be able to locate your secondary regulator by touch, but she/he can always find your head by touch, and thus, find the primary reg in your mouth. See Everything has a reason.

[Mark Chase]

Quite agree and a damed fine idea it is too. BUT my long hose is the one in my mouth I just dont like the OOA diver tking it and then strangling me with the loop arround my neck. I also dont like the additional hose across my chest. SO I bungy my long hose behind me or actualy dur to the design of my SS bands, I can place the loop of the long hose between my twin set. Deployment is simple and a tempory hog loop does the re stowing.

OK its not DIR but it works for me

all the best

Mark Chase

[Dr Stevil]

I've just been to that url and now wish I hadn't bothered,its that last section AND THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST :jpshakehead: FFS!