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Tek-Talk: Discuss Equipment choice/procedures in the Technical and Specialist Diving Forums forums: Just a couple of pointers, The small cylinders are not excempt from testing onthese bags, just the same as buddy ...

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Old 12-03-03, 08:57 AM
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Just a couple of pointers,
The small cylinders are not excempt from testing onthese bags, just the same as buddy bottles on jackets are not, the fact that 99% of folks dont get them tested is up to them, I have seen buddy bottles being tested with nasty cracks in where people have used adaptors to fill 232 bottles from 300 bar tanks!! So that is the only downside, but you can get 300 bar buddy botles.

I use one when on the inspiration, cos its bloody hard trying to fill a conventional bag otherwise, I have used one for a long time and it makes life very easy, I also use the Halcyon bag with its sealed inflate system via the drysuit whip, it works well too, but the gas bottle bag is by far easier.

As for forgetting to fill the bottle, well if you have a planning sheet you work through pre-dive, it should be part of your check list! Its like going to the loo & not unzipping before you let rip, you just dont do it!

I have had no probs with the valve opening on a dive, its rolled inside the bag, wich lives in my pocket, if you had it dangling it may be a possibility, but if it inflates you WILL notice it, so either dump it or cut it loose!!!

Lawerence if you are interested in a gass bag mail me off list!

Having used mine in an emergency situation whilst being dragged down at about 5m a second in the carribean I wont leave home without one.... In this situation a conventional bag just would not have worked...

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<font color='#000F22'>By the By he did reply twice to my Emails and he was freindly but adiment. Which is cool

Forgeting to fill the bottle is a possibuility but so is forgeting your weight belt or not doing up your dyr suit zip. Its not a reasion to bin the system. Also you can fill the bag manualy.

I love the way thy always go on about failure points entanglment hazards etc etc. When I was at horsea I had a look at some antque diving equipment and then found out it was the stuff actualy used by the navy divers.

Now they DO go for the minimalist aproach. No spg no computer. Why I asked. Its a failure point the chap explained ? So is running out of air I thaught but that didnt seem to &nbsp;cut much ice.

Point is, one mans failure point is another mans safety equipment. I wouldent dive without an SPG and I think gas blobs are safer to use than conventional blobs.

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Quote[/b] (Mark Chase @ Mar. 12 2003,11:30)]By the By he did reply twice to my Emails and he was freindly but adiment. Which is cool

Forgeting to fill the bottle is a possibuility but so is forgeting your weight belt or not doing up your dyr suit zip. Its not a reasion to bin the system. Also you can fill the bag manualy.

I love the way thy always go on about failure points entanglment hazards etc etc. When I was at horsea I had a look at some antque diving equipment and then found out it was the stuff actualy used by the navy divers.

Now they DO go for the minimalist aproach. No spg no computer. Why I asked. Its a failure point the chap explained ? So is running out of air I thaught but that didnt seem to  cut much ice.

Point is, one mans failure point is another mans safety equipment. I wouldent dive without an SPG and I think gas blobs are safer to use than conventional blobs.

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I want one with 50+ KG lift and enough height to stick out like a sore thumb. I would use it for 3 reasons - marking my accent, lifting (DPV, tanks etc) and deco bag.

What do they go for and how much do you think shipping would be? My last question &gt;&gt; would they bitch and wine if the tank wouldn't have Industry Canada or US DOT stamp on it. I wasn't going to Hydro or test it anyhow. Oh, it has to be in Din that's all I use now.

Any one out there with the replies.....

Thanks

Lawrence
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