EEEK!! Out of air

Hands up anyone who hasn't had an incident......... anyone, anyone at all?
 Starting the holier than thou stuff is a waste of breath. Going from what you are saying I should have stopped diving with just about everyone as very few people I know have had a perfect record when it comes to diving.
 I don't feel this incident was dangerous in the prevailing circumstances and was pissing myself laughing at the time. what you think is irrelevant, you weren't asked for your opinion anyway!

[daz]

<font color='#000080'>Depends what you mean by incident.

Accidental OOA
Deliberatly creating a potential incident

BTW (Thats as close as I can get to hands up for not having either of the above!)

Personally if you want to put yourself in this situation,  that's your call.

As for putting your buddy in this situation

Safe Diving.
Daz

I have never met a diver yet that been &quot;perfect&quot; every dive. As far as I was concered this was just a humorous story, albeit completely true, that I tossed in for general amusement when prompted about OOA incidents.
&nbsp;Unfortunately we always have the holier than thou divers that seem to be perfect
&nbsp;I can add to this trip by saying that two divers did the same thing on the same dive as part of the same group except they both ran out of air with 20mins deco to do and had to be rescued by a cylinder being dropped down to them, or mention that several people did 75m dives on a single later in the week. I wasn't involved and my &quot;incident&quot; doesn't look as bad now does it? especially as I planned the dive and dived the plan I made &nbsp;
&nbsp;I wasn't bothered what others got up to and I may disagree with what people will sometimes get up to but its a free country. I can look after myself and as long as they were experienced divers that can make their own decisions (ie not trainees) then why should I make their decisions for them. I would be just as pissed if people told me what to do and I am sure others here would be too.
&nbsp;Now why don't you stop playing Daddy and go get a life?

[Digger]

We all screw up, but you've not yet called it that. You seem proud of your &quot;I can do whatever I want and everyone can piss off&quot; attitude, which is, as you rightly point out, your business. You just won't be doing it on my boat, and if you ask me for help when I get a call to help recover a body from X depth because he did X, Y and Z, you're going to find me very reluctant to risk my ass for yours.

Just as a pointer, none of the other guys you mention would be on my boat again, either.

It' a dangerous company you keep, I just hope that you've seen sense. Would you plan the dive the same way again? If not, great. If you would, you're going to get burnt, and probably worse next time. Sorry to tempt fate, but there are guidelines for a reason. Like that they help to keep you alive.

On the holier than thou attitude, based on what you've said, I think I am. The only out of air situation I have ever had was based on the worst decision of my life after I'd done about 30 dives. I learnt my lesson, and now I always stick to the plan. That's how I hope to stay alive.

You planned your dive, and came up with an empty tank. It's a shame you endangered someone else, but again, it's a free country, and if you don't want to be of use to your buddy (which was your wife!!!) then go ahead. But not on my watch.

And I only play Daddy with people who behave like children.

[steve-k]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]You planned your dive, and came up with an empty tank. It's a shame you endangered someone else, but again, it's a free country, and if you don't want to be of use to your buddy (which was your wife!!!) then go ahead. But not on my watch.

agree totally

rubber if your ooa was an accident then your amusing little story would not be so scary to here
to plan to drain your tank compleatley and rely on your buddy for air, who you know will be verry low is not just silly its fookin stupid, you tell digger to stop playing daddy but you are playing god with your wife

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]I have never met a diver yet that been &quot;perfect&quot; every dive. As far as I was concered this was just a humorous story, albeit completely true

yes most of us have made mistakes, and a lot of times its down to our lack of experiance or incompitance, thankfully most of us learn from them, and become better divers for it

when you dive with a total selfish attitude, you are risking the lives of the people arround you, as with digger you would not be on my boat eather, furthermore if i was the buddy of someone like you who deliberatley planned to use all there air, then rely on mine on a 35m dive, i would guarantee that there would be more than just words spoken afterwords

your 1st post is not ammusing its scary
your 2nd and 3rd posts, fook me you actually think this is sound diving, and to actually use the argument that some people did more dangerouse diving to justify your actions?? wtf
and your wife, is she an inexperianced diver? (but then she used less air) i am amased that any diver would accept these diving practices from there buddy, pear pressure?? bullying??

[steve-k]

oh yes
your a muppet

[daz]

<font color='#000080'>Steve,

You should be ashamed of yourself.  

It is &quot;you're&quot; not &quot;your&quot;  

Either way, I get the gist of you're summary  

Daz  

[malcolm smith]

Hi Rubber, don't you just hate it when your connection fails just as you finish a post???

Very briefly----do you think your choice of reg to grab was influenced by the planned nature of your out of air experience, ie, it was not a sudden surprise?
Nothing judgemental here, I am engrained in the standard go for the reg in the mouth, and configure for this. You did not, and I am genuinely interested in the lead up to your choice of reg to go for.
Cheers, Malcolm.

[steve-k]

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lol there ate some dots and dashes so you can dot my i and cross my tees







you will have to excuse my lack of a decent education

I am going to ignore the sanctimonious a**holes, I should have known better than to start arguing with them. It is one of the pitfalls of forums that people always know best without having been there or knowing who they are even talking about. I have never had a problem being invited on boats or booking them and filling them so I can't be as bad as I seem to be made out so why should I care what people who don't know me think?
&nbsp; &nbsp;Anyway, to get back to why I posted the story. I always assume that people would go for the reg in the mouth but this assumes that you are diving with inexperienced people. very experienced people shouldn't panic and have to grab a reg as they should be properly equipped and most importantly, not panic if they had a problem. I would be less than impressed if most of my mates just grabbed my reg rather than coming over and asking for it. I normally configure for long hose for my diving in this country. In the red sea we were both on singles and normal octos.
&nbsp;The Red Sea incident was in this vein, there was no panic and I only took the reg rather than being passed it cos she was taking so long to suss what I was asking but I took her octo.
&nbsp;This is the onlt time I have been involved for real in an OOA and it wasn't really genuine so the above is more an opinion than experience but hopefully will help.
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