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Tek-Talk: Discuss General Feeling on Deep Air in the Technical and Specialist Diving Forums forums: Not true for you maybe, but true for some people. I can definitely feel the onset of narcosis from about ...

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Old 15-05-07, 10:06 PM
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Not true for you maybe, but true for some people. I can definitely feel the onset of narcosis from about 35 metres, so why dive anything other than trimix. Surely anything else at this point is a compromise due to availability/cost rather than selecting the ideal gas for the dive.
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All I see is someone who doesn't want to actually debate the subhect but would rather just sling "armchair diver" insults. Is that really your limit, I had you down as a knowledgeable diver I could learn from. What a shame.
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. . . Surely anything else at this point is a compromise due to availability/cost rather than selecting the ideal gas for the dive.
I suppose you also drive the safest car on the planet?

I personally drive a car that's economical, and I treat my diving the same. I've dived trimix, and not felt a significant difference to warrant the cost.



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All I see is someone who doesn't want to actually debate the subhect but would rather just sling "armchair diver" insults. Is that really your limit, I had you down as a knowledgeable diver I could learn from. What a shame.
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I suppose you also drive the safest car on the planet?

I personally drive a car that's economical, and I treat my diving the same. I've dived trimix, and not felt a significant difference to warrant the cost.



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no, but I do drive the safest one I could find for the type of driving I do.
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Now I dive CCR it's not an issue for me

But, given that an Advanced Recreational Trimix ticket is the same amount of time and same cost as an ERD course, why would you do an ERD course first?

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I'm not an armchair diver... been at it since 1983 doncha know...

so about this trimix shallow thing, what were you saying?

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OK, I'll bite.

Explain to me why, if we've already had a couple of CCR divers on here say they use trimix all the time, some even in the pool, becuase it's so cheap, and they don't need much (please see Mark Chase and Nigel Hewitt's post for reference) then how come you believe I am incorrect to say it's appropriate below 30M on open circuit. Is there something about CCR diving that affects the levels of narcosis, or am I right in saying that using mix on open circuit when narcosis occurs is the only ideal gas, and that anything else is just a compromise due to price and availability.
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no, but I do drive the safest one I could find for the type of driving I do.
Yes, but I would guess that that's a matter of opinion.


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err, yes...
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