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At the moment I'm a Sports Diver, what course would people recommend that would give me more depth? I know the natural progression would be Dive Leader but I've been looking at the syllabus and there doesnt look to be much in there that teaches you anything about deeper diving. So, is there a TDI course, say, that would do this in a more practical way??

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TDI deco procedures gets you to 40M but with the education to get yourself back.
tandem it with ADV Nx & it gets you to 45M with accelerated deco.
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TDI deco procedures gets you to 40M but with the education to get yourself back.
tandem it with ADV Nx & it gets you to 45M with accelerated deco.
Should have mentioned that I have ADv Nitrox from BSAC
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Have a word with Mark Powell Dive-Tech: TDI, PSAI and ITDA Nitrox, trimix and advanced technical diver training courses do the TDI Adv Ean & Deco.

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Rec Trimix gets you 45m. But then does Adv Nitrox and Deco Procs, or it did for me.

The point of DL is not to allow you dive deeper (progression to 50m), but to introduce more dive organisational skills. Planning dive trips, Rescue management, & supervising/leading more junior level divers.

I took a PSAI mCCR course which got me all of 0m increase in depth. As with Dive Leader, its about broadening your experience.

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Rec Trimix gets you 45m. But then does Adv Nitrox and Deco Procs, or it did for me.

The point of DL is not to allow you dive deeper (progression to 50m), but to introduce more dive organisational skills. Planning dive trips, Rescue management, & supervising/leading more junior level divers.

I took a PSAI mCCR course which got me all of 0m increase in depth. As with Dive Leader, its about broadening your experience.

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Thanks for that, like you say it introduces you to dive organisational skills. Planning dive trips, Rescue management, & supervising/leading more junior level divers.
Everything apart from the rescue management can be done by just going diving and gaining experience that way. I suppose its just because they have filled the course out with useless information that is putting me off.. For instance I dont know why there needs to be nearly two hours lectures on helicopter operations.... surely if your in that situation the RAF will tell you exactly what they want you to do... I am also led to believe that there are lectures about the coroner as well ??

It just seems they have made the course longer than it needs to be? Or it might be me being lazy

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Should have mentioned that I have ADv Nitrox from BSAC


You need to speak to who ever you are doing the training with as the BSAC Adv Ean does not cover EAD(equivalent air depth ) and you need it for TDI courses.

If you don't want to go down the TDI route do the BSAC ERD then do the BSAC Mix Gases course.
Mark Powell can cover all your needs.

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Should have mentioned that I have ADv Nitrox from BSAC
Am I right in thinking that the BSAC Adv Nitrox only gives you access to gases up to 50% though and you can't use it to accelerate deco? (I could be completely wrong but it's a sniffling of a memory I have in the back of my brain)

The TDI adv nitrox you can use up to 100% and accelerate... That's often combined with the Deco Procedures course to give you the tool box of skills you need.


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For instance I dont know why there needs to be nearly two hours lectures on helicopter operations.... surely if your in that situation the RAF will tell you exactly what they want you to do... I am also led to believe that there are lectures about the coroner as well ??
The helicopter guys are certainly more experienced, whatever service is involved. And yes, they will help guide you. However knowing what to expect can't hurt. Clearing some space, don't reach for the guy on the line, that kind of thing. Don't think it won't happen around you either, I've seen it twice so far. And it has got more common as the fear of reporting DCI has lessened. As you wish to go deeper, you should also think about the likelihood of a helicopter trip increasing for someone in any group.

As a DL, you stand a fair chance of being in charge of events, especially if the one person who happened to have more experience than you is the casualty. It's 2 hours of providing you with some information and tools to help you should you need to. Is that so bad? How would you feel if you didn't know what to do when you needed to?

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Yes its only to 50%..... you could carry a stage of 50% but you cant accelerate your deco.... (alledgedly ) even though I have a gas switching computer
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