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Tek-Talk: Discuss cant reach my isolation manifold in the Technical and Specialist Diving Forums forums: This is my concern Neil. It is not that close to my head that I can feel it against my ...

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Old 18-09-07, 12:19 PM
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This is my concern Neil. It is not that close to my head that I can feel it against my head when I lean it back and I was thinking there was too much space between my head and the manifold.
Will have a tinker with the bands and maybe angle the isolation valve a little more towards the horizontal.
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ok might be worth going to the local training lake this weekend and having a try.
Thanks for the help
Try them with the isolator shut first, then if you get a free flow (unlikely) you will retain at least half your gas and be able to surface instead of dying a horrible grizzly death.

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hahaha. they should put that on a card and hand out to anyone who ever looks at a twinset..
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I had similar problems and decided to go down the inversion route, hopefully my longer wing inflate will arrive this week and i can use the set in anger.

My problem stemmed from a shoulder injury - dislocation - which has reduced motility up to the point where it dislocates.

If you are concerned the close the isolator and dive them as independents, then in the water you can try to open the isolator.
Its much easier in water, i spent ages in 2 meters of water trying different options.
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ok might be worth going to the local training lake this weekend and having a try.
Thanks for the help
If your local training lake is Wraysbury then this might be of interest.

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There are a whole range of kit and technique issues that can stop you doing a shutdown.

For a start it's a lot easier doing it while horizontal rather than vertical - this is why trying it on dry land is not always that usefull.
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funilly enough it is Wraysbury.
Thanks for the tip
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I agree with Mark, but if you put your set on and sit down on a chair with them wearing a t shirt you should be able to reach all the knobs. If not, then I suspect you either a) need to adjust the bands (the top one should be positioned just at the break of the cylinder) or b) need surgery .

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This topic has been covered in some detail in the past.

here are some threads you might like to read:

Just can't reach Isolator

The Art of Shutdowns - A Garf Rant.

Shut-down Drills: Technique To Reach The Nob?
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are you in the water when you try these skills?

if your sat on a bench at home it will seam quite hard or impossible it get to those valves,

the top of your top band should sit at the end of the curve just as it starts to straightn up,
set them there and leave them,

its important to choose the right drysuit and undersuit!
get this wrong and your fighting like mad to reach back, i use a 0three ri 2/3 suit with the othree pbbase undergarment and im well set up now,

keep your back arched "shoudlers back arse up" this will shorten the reach distance,
keep head back

for isolating the manifold i put my hand on the back of my head then push my head back and it puts my valve into my hand,

for the primary and second posts i put forearm near my ear and use my head to guide my hand to the side cylinder valves,

hope this helps a bit, you can do it! use the force luke
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Digger will be along in a short while so I'll ask first.

You mentioned an OMS wing - what BP / harness are you using.
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