Any expense the best twin set kit?

[Rob Dobson]

64mm Vs 75mm with the Agir - I stand corrected...

[milldog]

Originally Posted by Rob Dobson

I know that plenty of people swear by their MK25's (and I do own some) but I don't like having that those turret o-rings on my backgas - an unnecessary failure point (and yes I have has issues in the past).

The DS4 has fewer failure points and very nice hose routing.

Each to their own....

Is the DS4 a diaphragm 1st stage??

the reason i like the MK25 is that you can swap it under water and blast the water out no need to get it service asap but with the diaphragm one's you need to get them serviced ASAP

Graham


Graham

[Rob Dobson]

Originally Posted by milldog

Is the DS4 a diaphragm 1st stage??

the reason i like the MK25 is that you can swap it under water and blast the water out no need to get it service asap but with the diaphragm one's you need to get them serviced ASAP

Graham


Graham

If I had to swap 1st regs under water then worrying about getting them serviced afterwards would not be high on my priority list. Also I am struggling to envisage a scenario where I would find swapping BG regs underwater useful or practical...

[divingniknaks]

Originally Posted by Rob Dobson

The HM ones are touch wider IIRC. The actual difference.... Other than HM being more expensive not much. The Agir ones securely hold the cylinders together and prevent stressing the manifold which is what you want bands to do. HM ones don't do that any better from what I can see.

I'd say the same for the v4tec ones as well tbh, but I would wouldn't I

We have plenty of them out there with no-one complaining.

I think out of all of the options being discussed, they all do the job admirably well, comes down to personal choice, shock horror, personal choice in DIR

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[Bottle Maker]

unless you are only diving in quarries and want the most expensive kit to pose in the car parks, the best kit for doing dives that justify using a twin set is a CCR with intergrated deco.
Graham.

[Rob Dobson]

Nothing wrong with V4Tec bands. I have some and they are very good.

[Scuttler]

Originally Posted by Bottle Maker

the best kit for doing dives that justify using a twin set is a CCR with intergrated deco.

What makes you say that? Can you quantify? Most people I know that own a Rebreather state that unless you're doing trimix dives you'll probably never recoup the cost of the unit. I'm just trying to figure out what your "best" criteria is?

[Woz]

Originally Posted by Bottle Maker

unless you are only diving in quarries and want the most expensive kit to pose in the car parks, the best kit for doing dives that justify using a twin set is a CCR with intergrated deco.
Graham.

Cobblers. The only way to justify the expense and PITA of a rebreather is if you are doing trimix dives. For any other dives a twinset is the tool.

[Brian of Aquanauts]

Originally Posted by divingniknaks

I'd say the same for the v4tec ones as well tbh, but I would wouldn't I

We have plenty of them out there with no-one complaining.

I think out of all of the options being discussed, they all do the job admirably well, comes down to personal choice, shock horror, personal choice in DIR

.

One of my welding friends was telling me the welds on the AGIR bands were awful, and the ones on the MIBA bands I sell and the V4tec ones that Phil sells were much much better.

At the end of the day though it doesn't really matter, any of these bands are all awesome, and way better than the other ones out there. Re 3" v 2.5" (I use both) again it makes very little difference, one could argue that the 2.5" bands shift the centre of gravity a tiny bit backwards and allow for a your head to get further back (easier vision in trim), but we'd really be splitting hairs on that one. Final answer, they're all the same.

Long 12s Heavy Euros or Heisers (are heisers still available Phil?)
Any wide band
Halcyon Manifold
Halcyon Evolve 40
Halcyon Stainless Steel Backplate and webbing (6mm too heavy for fresh water)
mk25 Titanium first stages (wish I could afford them)
G250V or S600 primary 2nd stage
R395 backup 2nd stage
and 9amp 18W Halcyon cannister light

[RichardGreen]

Originally Posted by Woz

Cobblers. The only way to justify the expense and PITA of a rebreather is if you are doing trimix dives. For any other dives a twinset is the tool.

Cobblers


Richard Green