New Tech Kit

[Air Guzzler]

I may have the opertunity for an early xmas present being

Twin 12's & wing.

i like the idea of the OMS 94lb Dual wing in Red with the Comfort Harness & back pad kit

and s twin 12's 232bar

ive never tried these items before although by buddy swears they are the Dogs dangliiiiies

what are the pro's & cons before santa puts them on this slay and delivers theme over xmas to me.

[Fiona]

Originally Posted by Air Guzzler

i like the idea of the OMS 94lb Dual wing in Red with the Comfort Harness & back pad kit

My advice would be to ask him if you can try them for a few dives, I bought a Comfort harness thinking it would be more "comfortable" than the IQ pack - it wasn't and I went back to the IQ pack.

However now I dive a one piece harness which you can't even tell you are wearing it is so comfortable.

Oh and Louise T says the red OMS wing is just a fashion statment personally I find black far more slimming

PS. Didn't notice you said TWIN bladdered wing - NO, just ask YAZZ to relate the story she told us this weekend.

[Twinsetmad]

Twin 12's...yes, but consider Euro's against fabers... go see Phil.

The OMS dual Bladder wing.. Ok..but only need 2 bladders if your ever going to dive in a wet suit.. its just not needed for drysuit diving..

OMS Comfort Harness... they are pants, hate them.. spend a few more quid that you saved buying a single bladder and get the IQ harness.. there are some superb second hand deals about.. should get one for £100

If you buy it as a set.. get a stainless plate.. and take some weight off your belt.

[Bottle Maker]

I did not use an OMS comfort harness instead I had a harness I built myself on an OMS copy back plate, I used this with the OMS 94ibs wing and twin 12s and found it very comfortable. The large amount of lift never caused me any problems and being bungied the wing is nice and tight against the cylinders so never got caught up on wreckage. I still have the wing so if you want to borrow it and we can meet up you are welcome to try it.

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by Air Guzzler

I may have the opportunity for an early xmas present being

Twin 12's & wing.

i like the idea of the OMS 94lb Dual wing in Red with the Comfort Harness & back pad kit

and s twin 12's 232bar

ive never tried these items before although by buddy swears they are the Dogs dangliiiiies

what are the pro's & cons before santa puts them on this slay and delivers theme over xmas to me.

You don't say what the 12s are what bands they have or what manifold so its hard to comment on how good they are.

OMS wings are very reliable and very strong so always a good purchase. Duel bladder is useful on dives with multiple steel tanks or on wet suit deco dives with multiple any type of tanks. If your not using such a rig the second wing inflate can be removed and blanked off or you can run the rig safely with the second bladder isolated.

Having a bungeed wing like the big red OMS you can dive any tank size or configuration you like. So it avoids the need for multiple wings which is handy. However its never going to be as slick looking as a specific tank dedicated wing.

Being completely honest the big red OMS wings were once he must have serious tecky diver wing. At the moment they are out of Vogue and unbungeed flat wings like the Frog, Halcyon and Agar Brook are more the in thing. My 2p is OMS still make damed fine wings regardless of current fashion trends. The Halcyon has had far to many complaints and story's of dodgy inflater's and fraying seems for me to take them seriously, I don't know anything about the Agar Brock ones but I have tried the Frog which i think are very impressive.

At the moment i have a Custom Divers wing on my CCR I use a Frog on my single tank rig I have a 35lb OMS flat wing on my twin 7s rig and i just bought an Oxygen to try for twin 12s and possibly my CCR.

I like the Frog best its very sexy kit.

The OMS comfort pac is a bit of a dogs breakfast so Id avoid that / sell it on.

ATB

Mark

[futureechos]

i'm new to twins so my opinion should be taken with my limited experience in mind, but having just been through this there's a couple of things to consider.

I have standard faber 12's, Custom Diver bands, MDE manifolds, DiveRite classic harness and backplate. Very happy with these.

The backplate is very comfortable, very simple. One piece or two piece harnesses are so simple and brilliant once adjusted correctly. If it has any problems, you replace with £30 of webbing - brilliant. I'm told if the Custom Divers gets a nick out of the webbing you have to pay something like £100+ to replace it?

Euro cylinders are longer, and have less drag but are heavier. Can be good if your trim leaves your feet light.

I bought new regs for the twins as the routing for the hoses on my old oceanics was a no-go from the start. Scubapro MK25's or DS4's were recommended to me.

Hope that helps??

FE

[digital_steve]

isn't 94lbs a massive amount of lift... unless you're the worlds most obese diver do you need that much?

[nigelH]

Originally Posted by digital_steve

isn't 94lbs a massive amount of lift... unless you're the worlds most obese diver do you need that much?

The world's most obese diver would need masses of lead not masses of lift.

94lbs of lift is for people who don't understand diving. 50lbs (24Kgs) is realistic for any dive kit. By the time you are carrying twin 18s and two 15L stages so much of your gas is helium you need less lift rather than more.

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by nigelH

The world's most obese diver would need masses of lead not masses of lift.

94lbs of lift is for people who don't understand diving. 50lbs (24Kgs) is realistic for any dive kit. By the time you are carrying twin 18s and two 15L stages so much of your gas is helium you need less lift rather than more.

I laugh every time I read this sort of thing. I meen whats the point of a car being able to do 100MPH when the speed limit is 70?

An australian diver was lost to us a couple of weeks ago. He passed out on decent. His buddies found him on the bottom but were unable to obtain positive boyancy and lift the body.

I reckon a 90lb lift wing would have done it

The diver was dead already but had he lost all boyancy control and still been alive it would have been good if his buddy could lift him.

Having 90lb of lift dosent meen you have to use it. Having 90lb of lift on an flat wing is stupid you would look like a manta ray. Having it on a bungeed wing is no problem at all.

I have been on the surface with my head bearley out of the water many times wishing i had more lift in my wing. I have never felt i had too much lift?

ATB

Mark

[Fiona]

Originally Posted by Mark Chase

An australian diver was lost to us a couple of weeks ago. He passed out on decent. His buddies found him on the bottom but were unable to obtain positive boyancy and lift the body.

I reckon a 90lb lift wing would have done it

Mark

Mark can you provide a link to the report, I would like to read exactly why they couldn't.