Deco stage set up

[Janos]

Originally Posted by Mal Bridgeman

Unfortunately, too many people are getting hurt, diving systems/configs/procedures they have designed/developed themselves.

Hi Mal,

Any evidence to back this up? Eg number of divers diving Hogarthian in the UK, incidents involving those divers, number of divers diving non-Hog in the UK, incidents involving those divers?

Or is it something you made up?

Cheers,
Janos

[Garf]

Patience, Mal. You must learn patience. They'll all be dead soon

[chrisch]

Originally Posted by Garf

Patience, Mal. You must learn patience. They'll all be dead soon

Yup you just see. First OOG and they will get strangled with that long hose contraption.

oooopps sorry thought I was on the Beeserk forum for a minute - too many windows open

Chris

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by Janos

Hi Mal,

Any evidence to back this up? Eg number of divers diving Hogarthian in the UK, incidents involving those divers, number of divers diving non-Hog in the UK, incidents involving those divers?

Or is it something you made up?

Cheers,
Janos

Janoos

You have access to the same media reports and Incident reports I do.

Case in point in the news today of a guy who apparently signalled out of gas to his buddy but went to the surface anyway, unable to stay there and was found with his pony (I am assuming) full of gas but turned off. This is not a system that's taught to my knowledge.
Mal

[Janos]

Re: The BSAC courses,

With the introduction of the trimix courses both BSAC extended range and Advanced Nitrox are under review.

I think the old Advanced Nitrox was a great course in it's time. Remember that BSAC introduces small amounts of deco much earlier than other agencies. However it was never meant to be a 'techie' course and instructors were actively encouraged NOT to teach in twinsets.

I'm sure it will all change in the next few months.

Janos

PS - There's an interesting picture on slide 5 of the mixed gas "equipment" powerpoint

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by Janos

PS - There's an interesting picture on slide 5 of the mixed gas "equipment" powerpoint

Even the photographer couldn't think of a good reason for the extra d-rings.....is that what you meant ?

[Janos]

Originally Posted by Mal Bridgeman

[color="DarkRed"]Case in point in the news today of a guy who apparently signalled out of gas to his buddy but went to the surface anyway, unable to stay there and was found with his pony (I am assuming) full of gas but turned off. This is not a system that's taught to my knowledge.

Sure. But I don't think it's how he intended to dive. IMHO it could just as easily have happened if it was side-slung. But this is just speculation on yours or my part.

Also quoting a single case is useful to learn what not to do. You need to have many more cases to have convincing evidence.

Janos

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by Mal Bridgeman

Even the photographer couldn't think of a good reason for the extra d-rings.....is that what you meant ?

It's so the less flexible can reach to clip stuff off, that said I believe the bottom shoulder right d-ring is for clipping on the Halcyon life raft

Safe diving,
Steve

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by Janos

Sure. But I don't think it's how he intended to dive. IMHO it could just as easily have happened if it was side-slung. But this is just speculation on yours or my part.

Also quoting a single case is useful to learn what not to do. You need to have much more cases to justify what is right.

Janos

I was providing an illustration of my point.... as I say, if you want chapter and verse, look back at the incident reports, then make your own mind up about it.

Mal

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by Steve S

It's so the less flexible can reach to clip stuff off,

Put in the right place ....even *you* could reach it Steve
Mal