30m - deep?

[Howard Payne]

We keep trying to strap a VR3 to him but the wrist rejects it
He does look bigger under water you'll be relieved to here

[SoggyFox]

Originally Posted by GLOC

We do have new technology which means you don't have to use wires for a phone call However, I do think I have your number in my mobile if need be

does a mobile work at 6m then?

[GLOC]

Originally Posted by SoggyFox

does a mobile work at 6m then?

It does in a helicopter!!

[Chris W]

Hi,

Is 30M deep?

I'm greening you for that because it's a good question ......

My personal opinion is yes ...it's deep ........but there again I feel that any depth should be treated with respect.......

I think as your experience grows with diving its very easy to loose respect for depth and appreciate the drastic enviromental changes which occur in just 10M of water .............

[Hazel W]

Funnily enough it depends on my mindset at the time ...I have felt deeply uncomfortable and "out of my depth" on a 15m dive and conversly easily within my comfort zone at 45 +m on a different day .. mental and physical preparation, training, experiance and teamwork can all contribute positivly or otherwise to your feeling of "depth" and it can all go out the window if you are having an off day and the heebiejeebies get you the moment your face touches the water.....

2p

Hazel

[ponybottle]

Hi all

30 metres is nothing if you have to walk it horizontally but stand it on end and have to swim it at a controlled rate and it's a whole different ball game !

I try to configure my gear for redundancy but still only dive a 12l + pony. 30 mtrs I consider deep but even more than the depth I'd consider the conditions more important and in that I would also lump in your buddies - do they have the capacity for self-rescue when the brown squidgy stuff encounters the fast twirling yokeymebob ?

I think some of the greatest risk comes from unenvisaged adverse conditions - viz / current etc as oposed to depth per se; or when a buddy requires help and then your own capacity to complete the dive as originally planned is compromised to possibly dangerous limits.

When this happens then the surface seems a long way away regardless of the actual distance.

Chris

[Captain Calamity]

[quote=MarkP;890420]Perhaps that's illustrated the why I felt the urge to post - we're comfortabale in depths that can easily kill yet we don't seem concerned by it.[quote]

I agree, complacency is common. I tend to call 30m deep, but then I regularly dive this depth in cold, dark, low vis conditions with manifolded twins, and have a buddy who knows what he's doing and I can trust.

However, any dive is deep if you can't make it to the surface (or your buddy) on an empty set of lungs, so when i'm diving a single tank on holiday I make sure I know where my buddy is at all times, and make sure I am close enough to get to them without air if needed. I like having the redundancy of twins and careful gas planning for UK diving, perhaps that is why I feel so vulnerable abroad on a single tank setup.

On a recent trip to Cozumel I had a quick look round at the other buddy pairs on a few 30m plus single tank dives, I doubt many could have made it to safety if they had suddenly gone OOA. One pair disgraced themselves by continuing to take photos whilst sharing air after one sucked his cylinder dry, also at 30m. Neither appeared to get why the DM was so pissed off with them.

CC