triox vs. trimix?

[IanDennis]

Originally Posted by Mark Chase

Personaly Id say TDI entry level trimix is a better option as you soon exaust the range of triox but thats just my opinion.

Depends what your looking for - some students on these courses are coming from basic nitrox and therefore entry level trimix is not a viable solution. Triox is a viable alternative between 30 and 48m - some divers won't want to go beyond on that but do want to benefit from the reduction in narcosis rather than using advance nitrox and weak nitrox in these depths.

Likewise some will want to use it as a stepping stone to Normoxic trimix- rather than Advanced Nitrox - they get the benefit of using helium in the mix and the full skill range- in preparation for further training if they want to go down that route.

[Brian of Aquanauts]

Originally Posted by SoggyFox

is there a mandatory number of dives to be done between 40-45m on deco procedures before you can do trimix?

you must have 25 dives deeper than 30m as a prereq to TDI Trimix

Ian's Triox course is a combine adv. Nitrox and triox course so yes it is a first tech course and suitable to do before entry trimix.

However the GUE route will give you a bit more in terms of dive skill IMHO

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

But you have to dive narked in up to 45m while you get experience with ADV Nitrox & Deco before Trimix.

If this were possible as a first course then i'd agree, but to be inexperienced, and off your box is a bit of a messy combination.

I know lots of people get put off when they have their first CO2 hit, triox at the start would help with that issue.

I did Advanced Nitrox and decompresion procedures as a course then entry level trimix streight away. (well within a couple of months)

I was given the choice of this or Extended range then Entry level mix. I think Extended range is not a course suatable for UK conditions. If i lived in Egypt id have done it that way.

ATB

Mark

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by IanDennis

Depends what your looking for - some students on these courses are coming from basic nitrox and therefore entry level trimix is not a viable solution. Triox is a viable alternative between 30 and 48m - some divers won't want to go beyond on that but do want to benefit from the reduction in narcosis rather than using advance nitrox and weak nitrox in these depths.

Likewise some will want to use it as a stepping stone to Normoxic trimix- rather than Advanced Nitrox - they get the benefit of using helium in the mix and the full skill range- in preparation for further training if they want to go down that route.

Good point,


As ror the qualifieing dives I had loads in the 30-40 range before doing entry level mix And a few slightly deeper


ATB

Mark

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

you must have 25 dives deeper than 30m as a prereq to TDI Trimix

Ian's Triox course is a combine adv. Nitrox and triox course so yes it is a first tech course and suitable to do before entry trimix.

However the GUE route will give you a bit more in terms of dive skill IMHO

Come over hear so i can slap your wrist on behalf of quality TDI instructors everywhere.


ATB

Mark

[IanDennis]

Originally Posted by Mal Bridgeman

Is Rec Triox a "qualifying" cert for ELT? If so then that would be an "easier" route ..... but where would the AN & DP skills be taught? Since I think the ELT course presumes you have them and the Rec Triox does not cover them IIRC.

Mal

Mal - Advanced Recreational Trimix- Triox is a qualifying cert for IANTD Normoxic Trimix and equivalent to AN & DP for other agencies. The Triox course is exactly the same structure as Advanced Nitrox but with the benefit of Helium in the mix.

As Brian says - the course is effectively an Advanced Nitrox, Deco procedures and Triox training programme.

Chasey - I would agree that Extended range has very limited potential in UK waters.

If your think recreational trimix then this is a different course and does not have the necessary skill base- its currently under review by IANTD.

[IanDennis]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

However the GUE route will give you a bit more in terms of dive skill IMHO

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by GLOC

You plan?

No, but we tell others we do to make them feel better .


Advanced dive planning on CCR

How much deco shall we do today?


ATB

Mark

[Howard Payne]

How much deco shall we do today?

Shitloads in your case Mwah ha ha

(See what I did there -just effortlessly kicked the whole GUE vs. Strokes deco peer pressure thing off again - some days I just can't help myself - I blame Ben)

[Brian of Aquanauts]

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

Shitloads in your case Mwah ha ha

(See what I did there -just effortlessly kicked the whole GUE vs. Strokes deco peer pressure thing off again - some days I just can't help myself - I blame Ben)

who's Ben???