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just in case you think of retaliation i have some boys here to sort you out



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F***ing hell!!! No-one has mentioned rebreather planning yet! Is everyone OK?

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Here's is one for those who dive with a lost deco plan that Si/Weazlez posted. How many people limit their bottom time based on their lost deco plan?
With one deco gas then I always limited my bottom time to what I could deco on with backgas. If I couldn't do a reasonable bottom time then I'd take an extra deco bottle. Stage bottles are easy to find, reliable buddies aren't.

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I think the safety factor that's given by the 1/3rd in backgas is somewhat misleading, as for some dives it works and others it doesn't. I prefer to calculate out the actual gas needed.
Absolutely. It's a good starting point when thinking about a plan but once you're in detail then it is usually useless. Even in cave diving I find it a bit liberal.

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Absolutely. It's a good starting point when thinking about a plan but once you're in detail then it is usually useless. Even in cave diving I find it a bit liberal.
Bollox... it's a lot better than sticking your finger in the air.

Maybe in cave diving as there's a lot that can go wrong to impede your exit, but in open water you can plan an ascent and gas supply quite easily.

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How many people limit their bottom time based on their lost deco plan?
I do, but then again I only do weenie single stage nitrox dives with limited exposures. I personally plan bottom time based on a combination of minimum gas and backgas deco requirements.
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Bollox... it's a lot better than sticking your finger in the air.

Maybe in cave diving as there's a lot that can go wrong to impede your exit, but in open water you can plan an ascent and gas supply quite easily.

You should know better...
WHat I mean is I used 1/3's as a starting point for giving me an idea of how much bottom time I should be looking at then working the plan out from there.

I don't like 1/3's for caving, too conservative for stages, too liberal for backgas.
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