Salvo advice

[Woz]

Slip your hand out of the handle and grab the double ender. It's a cinch. Honest. Practice in the bath...

[Clare Gledhill]

Originally Posted by Mal Bridgeman

So the questions which remain are:

"Why do I need to be able to do this one handed - a convention or is their a practical reason?"

The two bungy loops and double ender are not recommended by AK on the basis that it makes the light difficult to stow one handed - and even more so if blind.

As Al and Fraser both dive their lights like this we got to see how they coped on Tech 1 when they lost their masks. Why one handed? - well if you have one hand on a line and it is your only known way out you may not want to let go to use both hands to restow your light. Al and Fraser did cope - admirably - although not perhaps quite as quickly as they would have liked.

Me - I'll stick with my two bolt snaps - I can't be arsed with all that fiddling...

Which reminds me... Phill - when you returned the light head to me which Barry had repaired, the boltsnap on the cable end was missing. I don't know.... you fix my light for free but nick my boltsnap - daylight robbery I call it

Now... where did I put that pink caveline

[e-aquanauts]

Originally Posted by Gledders

The two bungy loops and double ender are not recommended by AK on the basis that it makes the light difficult to stow one handed - and even more so if blind.

As Al and Fraser both dive their lights like this we got to see how they coped on Tech 1 when they lost their masks. They did cope - admirably - although not perhaps quite as quickly as they would have liked. Me - I'll stick with my two bolt snaps - I can't be arsed with all that fiddling...

Which reminds me... Phill - when you returned the light head to me which Barry had repaired, the boltsnap on the cable end was missing. I don't know.... you fix my light for free but nick my boltsnap - daylight robbery I call it

Now... where did I put that pink caveline

Shhh
- You're in the wrong forum.

A cirtain AK tied a HUGE bungie loop to mine (but I'll fix that strokery later).

/F

[Little Pete]

Didn't the whole two clips/bungied double ender thing start a bit of an argument with JJ and Georgitsis?

Fortunately I don't have this worry yet as I've managed to avoid the whole flashy torch spending (which is nice for the bank balance).

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Gledders

The two bungy loops and double ender are not recommended by AK on the basis that it makes the light difficult to stow one handed - and even more so if blind.

The voice of others experience eh?

There is a lot of information available online regarding kit configuration, rather than simply regurgitating stuff we've read/been told would it not be better to give opinions on what we have actually tried?

Last weekend I was lucky enough to dive with a great bunch of guys, one of whom has been doing deep wrecks for almost 30 years, he breaks most of the "rules" I have been taught but is still alive. If the agencies dire warnings regarding kit configuration were all true people like this wouldn't still be around, as I see it the important thing is to know your rig and keep it consistent. The requirement for "look alike" divers seems to be more suited to diving in unknown teams really rather than as part of a worked up team.

Ian

Ian

[Clare Gledhill]

Originally Posted by iani

rather than simply regurgitating stuff we've read/been told would it not be better to give opinions on what we have actually tried?

Hmm... whilst you make some valid points in your post Ian I think you are being a tad selective in your quote...

As I said, I dived in some stressful circumstances with two divers who use the system which is being discussed here (which I don't - so much for the allegation of unquestioning uniformity ) and set out quite plainly that that they coped - despite the advice that the arrangement may not be optimal.

Whether to bungy or not in a DIR set up is for the other forum. However, together with some reasons why the one handed operation could be seen to be beneficial I had hoped that my observations would be helpful in answering Mal's questions.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Gledders

Hmm... whilst you make some valid points in your post Ian I think you are being a tad selective in your quote...

As I said, I dived in some stressful circumstances with two divers who use the system which is being discussed here (which I don't - so much for the allegation of unquestioning uniformity ) and set out quite plainly that that they coped - despite the advice that the arrangement may not be optimal.

Whether to bungy or not in a DIR set up is for the other forum. However, together with some reasons why the one handed operation could be seen to be beneficial I had hoped that my observations would be helpful in answering Mal's questions.

Sorry Clare, I still don't get it. This post is not in the DIR forum so no dogma has to be followed, what's the problem? we need to stow a torch, well how about just hanging it over an arm if we are busy for a few seconds? How's about stopping the scooter for a few seconds ( you can do this, believe me) I just don't get what all the fuss is about, if you (not you personally) cant clip kit on/off underwater then maybe you should be back in a pool/shallow water gaining experience. I just get the feeling that there is a desire for definitive answers to simple situations where there really isn't a major problem to be overcome.

Ian