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Torches: Discuss Solus SU-1250 LED On test in the Dive Kit and Equipment forums: Good write up Mark, you need to give up your day job and test/write or a dive mag I'...

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Good write up Mark, you need to give up your day job and test/write or a dive mag

I'm just stumped and can't see the reason to have a light sabre costing well over £ 50 , or SIGNALLING ............ Signalling who, exactly ?

Surely, if you need to signal someone on the surface a CYLUME nightstick or Q 40 will do ,,, ( has worked this well or many years ) .... underwater ,, well i'm gobsmacked at this time to even think.
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Does this all mean that you now only need a HID if you want your torch to be a signalling tool and/or DIR compliant?

If you don't want a signalling tool, but do want a really bright, tough torch to explore wrecks with (and fend off jealous buddies) you want a Solus or similar(?). Or does the HID's penetration still make it the one to go for?

When I see photos or videos of the 21w Salvo the centre spot seems so bright that you can't see what it is illuminating. I haven't dived with one so maybe this isnt the case underwater...
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I'm just stumped and can't see the reason to have a light sabre costing well over £ 50 , or SIGNALLING ............ Signalling who, exactly ?
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Surely, if you need to signal someone on the surface a CYLUME nightstick or Q 40 will do ,,, ( has worked this well or many years ) .... underwater ,, well i'm gobsmacked at this time to even think.


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Why the yawn, Fiona ?

Can you not explain or give an answer to a question ?

eg, If i was on a wreck at 40 mts in reasonable viz, where it was a little darker than normal, and i can see my buddy or a fellow diver a couple of meters away.
Why would I want a expensive torch to signal whoever with ?



Oh , it looks like LEG OF SALMON is wondering as well ............
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How about 40 metres in 3m vis and darker than the black hole of Calcutta?

If you're ten metres away from your team members it doesn't matter what light you've got. They're unlikely to see your signals.
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How about 40 metres in 3m vis and darker than the black hole of Calcutta?

If you're ten metres away from your team members it doesn't matter what light you've got. They're unlikely to see your signals.
Well , if thats the case , then the so called 'team diving' is out the window in terms of being close by to render assistance anyway.

I suppose the main comment made about signalling was from a DIR type safety query rather than a good light for the general type diver that needs a good light source for shining in holes to see whats inside a wreck and scanning for good entry & exit points ....... ie useful rather than fashion.

I close my case. I thought my question was a fair comment and not ya sort of numpty one,,,,, perhaps will now save my pennies and stick with my light sources whih is more than ideal for my solo diving.... just was looking around for a stronger light with more burn time.
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How about 40 metres in 3m vis and darker than the black hole of Calcutta?
Thats typical dover diving , thats why i asked .
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Looking at the Salvo, isn't that the focusable head? In which case you get the light sabre effect and the softer, more scattered light, similar to that of the Solus surely?

thats what i thought, it would be nice to see how it faired if the focus on the salvo was moved out to give the broad beam light.
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Does this all mean that you now only need a HID if you want your torch to be a signalling tool and/or DIR compliant?

If you don't want a signalling tool, but do want a really bright, tough torch to explore wrecks with (and fend off jealous buddies) you want a Solus or similar(?). Or does the HID's penetration still make it the one to go for?

When I see photos or videos of the 21w Salvo the centre spot seems so bright that you can't see what it is illuminating. I haven't dived with one so maybe this isnt the case underwater...

Either torch is superb and neither will disappoint their respective owners in terms of illuminating the dive. The question should be, do you want the bullet proof reliability of a LED torch or the ability to signal at long range on well lit dives?

If its dark or even gloomy, either torch will do the signaling job adequately.

The hot spot of a Salvo/Halcyon type HID does burn out what your looking at as will the Solus at close range. I personally found the short to mid range pattern of illumination offered by the Solus to be a very nice/preferable light to dive with.

The DIR crowd will never use this torch unless the beam angle is tightened right down to HID type light saber proportions. The question remains should Kevin offer this in his range of torches? Id say yes to open up sales to the DIR divers, but I wouldn't buy one myself.


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thats what i thought, it would be nice to see how it faired if the focus on the salvo was moved out to give the broad beam light.
Ill do a pic when it gets dark tonight.


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