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Old 29-03-08, 09:46 PM
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we need help for the perfect light

Hello,
at first sorry for my bad English. I hope you can follow my idea.
We are well known by our "normal" diving lamps. With special light for tech-diving we start in the moment. The first success was our LED-CAVE and the PHOTON, both with the 1000 lumen LED "Ostar".
Now we think about the perfect light for tech-diving, but we need your help.
Please write in your answers all what you want for this light.
For example: which kind of battaries, which kind of light source (halogen, HID, LED), lamp electronic, focusing, holder for the battery cannister, material for canister ..........
I have already a special idea for this light, but nobody is perfect

Maybe we can construct with your help the perfect light.

Thank you for your help

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Old 29-03-08, 09:53 PM
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I guess the light of the future in my book would be a high output, focussable LED to rival the 'light saber' HIDs of now... s
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The perfect light.......

.........is here Salvo Havoc 21 Amp Li-Ion 50 Watt Remote Head HID, 35 & 50 Watt Li Ion Lights at divingniknaks 0121 707 5783. Frog, Dirzone, Agir Brokk Scuba Diving Gear


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Yep, something like that...... but cheaper!
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Yep, something like that...... but cheaper!
Sorry, but we look for new and better solutions. I think, existing solutions are not state of the art, but maybe good enough for someone.

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Sorry, but we look for new and better solutions. I think, existing solutions are not state of the art, but maybe good enough for someone.

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Many people who want powerful lights often don't want state of the art lights. They want light designs that have been well proven and tested for years. This is the reason the Halcyon and Salvo lights are seen as being so good. The basic design has been around for ever, and is just being gradually tweaked.

The big breakthrough will come when someone can build a torch identical to those above, but with LED producing the same output and colour temperature as the big HID bulbs, and the same level of focussing ability.

then you;d have all the advantages of both HID and LED and nothing would touch you. Salvo are, IMHO, getting there...
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  • Small compact HID head
  • Focusablle
  • compact goodman handle
  • Variable power i.e 21w HID & 35Watt HID in the same unit
(meaning bright enough for enclosed spaces and can be turned up for the deep and wide open)
  • Fast charge / long burn time batteries
  • Compact cannister battery
  • Quality battery connections
  • Good quality switch mechanism
  • Easy to seal and NOT flood

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Must look good
Be of good value for money
Have great service and support as backup
Changeable light heads
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Many people who want powerful lights often don't want state of the art lights. They want light designs that have been well proven and tested for years. This is the reason the Halcyon and Salvo lights are seen as being so good. The basic design has been around for ever, and is just being gradually tweaked.

The big breakthrough will come when someone can build a torch identical to those above, but with LED producing the same output and colour temperature as the big HID bulbs, and the same level of focussing ability.

then you;d have all the advantages of both HID and LED and nothing would touch you. Salvo are, IMHO, getting there...
Well said!
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My ideal light has the following features:

Battery that lasts ages, thus minimising frequency of charging ( I suspect that this leads us to LED)
Small head unit - Like the CDH1, certainly no bigger
Head mounted switch - Again, like the CDH1
Small battery pack - Again, like the CDH1
Must be robust - Like the solus
Cost is also a primary factor
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Yep, something like that...... but cheaper!
.. and more robust. I have just spent the week repairing of my HID lights..

Perfect light for me includes:

- Powerfull (min 10W HID equiv) focussed LED head (or maybe a laser pointer build in to use for signaling?)

- removable diffuser to use for video or separate specific video head

- Removable (screw secured) solid goodman handle that can be replaced with a lokline type fitting for video arm

- Umbilical with no straight through connection to battery tank

- Surface pluggable secured cable (e.g lumberger) so I can change heads for normal diving and video lighting (on land - don't need to be underwater pluggable)

- HDPE or similar non-metal battery tank with clear lid

- Reed or stainless pieco [sp?] switch - avoiding breakable rubber switch boot

- Webbing belt loop on battery tank

- NIMH or better 12V min 4.5 Ah battery with a good smart charger

- Modular options of larger, more powerfull lightheads and battery tanks assembles

- easy field fixable

- Charger must be worldwide voltage 110/220V (12V would be nice too) with different lead/plug options (e.g. laptop powersupply style)


I have most of that already except for the lighthead

Do we get a design consultancy fee?

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