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Torches: Discuss Halcyon or Salvo in the Dive Kit and Equipment forums: i think it comes down to what you have used, tried in the past or had friends who have done ...

View Poll Results: Halcyon or Salvo
halcyon 18w HID 9amp Battery 15 29.41%
Salvo 21w HID 10 Amp Battery 30 58.82%
Salvo 35w HID and a new place to stay..... 6 11.76%
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Old 29-04-08, 12:07 PM
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i think it comes down to what you have used, tried in the past or had friends who have done the same

salvo all the way


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Well - I have a Salvo and have had no problems, so I'll give them another vote

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Old 29-04-08, 12:17 PM
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I'd vote for Halcyon, and I am a dealer as well.

Why?

Well, for a start, I've used Halcyon 10W and 18W lights now since around 2002. I've used Pro14 and Pro3 lead acid canisters, most of the NiMH battery packs. My current main light is the 9Ah 18W, with the dry lid.

The dry lid is an awesome development, as it prevents the battery compartment flooding in the event of a cord getting cut or nicked. This is a common failure point on these lights, whatever the manufacturer. Given the price of a replacement of a NiMH battery pack, I now consider this is a crucial addition to the light. It also means the light will go on working if the cable insulation is cut. A flooded battery compartment in salt water will eventually lead to the light going out.

I fail to understand the concerns over the fragility of the WA bulb. I fly a lot, and my light goes into checked baggage, in soft luggage. I dive RIBs, throw my gear into the back of the car, lend out the light to people, and generally give my gear a pretty hard time. I have NEVER had a bulb fail due to transit (mis) handling. I have had one bulb fail after several years of use, and one spare bulb fail that was in my spares kit with a pile of spanners, allen keys and other such junk.

With all of this in mind, the good existing product, the continuous product development, I see no reason to change my brand, and every reason to support Halcyon. It also drove my choice when I looked at which manufacturers products to sell.

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[quote=the_negligent_snail;910377]Hi All,

Will soon be selling a Metalsub HID126 (Purchased Nov ‘07) with 9amp battery (March ‘08) and 4amp travel battery (Nov ’07) when I get this so PM me if interested…looking in region of £700 ono.

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I've voted Salvo 21watt, I've had no problems with mine, unlike a friend of mine who had a Halcyon which was sent back 3 times due to it flooding she eventually got a full refund after the last flooding when it had just come back from being repaired and pressure tested. Personally I prefer the light from the Salvo I think it is a more white light where as to me the Halcyon seems more yellowish.
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The dry lid is an awesome development, as it prevents the battery compartment flooding in the event of a cord getting cut or nicked.
Is it that great? I've been using umbilical lights since 1994 and I've had two nicked cables in fourteen years. I'm not particularly careful with my kit so I doubt if it's luck. One was a decent sized tear, about 10mm long which left about 20mm of water in the bottom of the can. A decent compression fitting on a rubberised cable is just as good.

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I fail to understand the concerns over the fragility of the WA bulb. I fly a lot, and my light goes into checked baggage, in soft luggage. I dive RIBs, throw my gear into the back of the car, lend out the light to people, and generally give my gear a pretty hard time. I have NEVER had a bulb fail due to transit (mis) handling. I have had one bulb fail after several years of use, and one spare bulb fail that was in my spares kit with a pile of spanners, allen keys and other such junk.
£90 for a replacement as opposed to £145 is a big factor. Admittedly, I've never had a WA fail in the four years I've had a Halcyon light, again with not particularly kind treatment but the thought of shelling out £145 if it does happen made me swap to the Salvo. I spoke with a Welch Allyn rep last year, she said that the 18W is being phased out and replaced with a 21W lamp so I thought if I'm going to be forced on to a 21W bulb then I might as well go for Salvo's.
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It also drove my choice when I looked at which manufacturers products to sell.

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Rich,

Sorry, I expect better than that, like you really would have been able to sell Salvo lights and keep your GUE status ?

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Rich,

Sorry, I expect better than that, like you really would have been able to sell Salvo lights and keep your GUE status ?

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I don't see why not.

There is nothing in the GUE instructor agreement to prohibit me dealing Salvo or any other brand of equipment.

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Sorry, I expect better than that, like you really would have been able to sell Salvo lights and keep your GUE status ?

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I've had this discussion frankly with Richard Lundgren who assured me that I could sell any brand that I chose to :-)
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Rich, Brian, I dare you to try it. Just an e-mail saying "We would like to sell this equipment alongside the Halcyon products we stock, that's ok isn't it?" and I'd love to see the unedited response.

While you're there you could try selling X-scooters as well.

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