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Torches: Discuss Halcyon or Salvo in the Dive Kit and Equipment forums: While you're there you could try selling X-scooters as well. Digs. I'm actually considering buying one... not ...

View Poll Results: Halcyon or Salvo
halcyon 18w HID 9amp Battery 17 31.48%
Salvo 21w HID 10 Amp Battery 30 55.56%
Salvo 35w HID and a new place to stay..... 7 12.96%
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Old 29-04-08, 01:20 PM
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While you're there you could try selling X-scooters as well.

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I'm actually considering buying one... not sure at the moment but that's another thread. By the way my conversation above was quite open and frank. There are no issues.
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I await both of your calls for Salvo, Dirzone and Frog Gear price lists with eager anticipation .

I have a strange feeling Satan will skate to work before I get them though.

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I await both of your calls for Salvo, Dirzone and Frog Gear price lists with eager anticipation .

I have a strange feeling Satan will skate to work before I get them though.

Sorry Phil, but you're annoying me now. You are making veiled accusations about both mine and Jarrods integrity.

My decision to sell Halcyon equipment is not something I need to defend. I am also not prepared to indulge in a negative campaign against Salvo or any other manufacturer for that matter.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to annoy you.

I don't see anything in my posts that went anything near mentioning JJ.

If you feel I questioned your integrity, then I apologise unreservedly. As you know I have nothing but the highest respect for you as an Instructor and as a person.


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Back to the point.

I know you didn't suggest this but I recently bought a Sartek. Its a lot cheeper and very good quality. If you can get someone to bring it back for you, you'll save on import too.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to annoy you.

I don't see anything in my posts that went anything near mentioning JJ.

If you feel I questioned your integrity, then I apologise unreservedly. As you know I have nothing but the highest respect for you as an Instructor and as a person.


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Sorry, I expect better than that, like you really would have been able to sell Salvo lights and keep your GUE status ?
suggest that you don't think I'm being truthful. That questions my integrity.

If I were to have my instructor status revoked due to me dealing in Salvo, then that would be Jarrods decision. Hence you also question his integrity.

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As a 15 year instructor, I would not recommend anything to my students, I wouldnt use myself.

I have had no trouble with the Halcyon, and I do recommend them to my students.

Im not DIR/GUE or MI5, but just an instructor who likes things to do what they say they are going to do.

The Halcyon gets my vote.
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I'm a GUE instructor and I sell Halcyon kit. Why?

Well to put a few things straight, I have no need to sell the kit. A dealership registration does not come free with the instructor card. I used Halcyon kit before I became an instructor, I used Salvo lights but moved to Halcyon as, I am sure Phill will confirm, I couldn't get what I wanted from a Salvo at the time for my cave diving in Mexico. It makes sense to sell what I use - it's the reason I sell DUI drysuits and Santi undersuits. I believe in them as products.

I support Halcyon for other reasons too. GUE is a non profit making entity and as Jarrod often quips is very successful at it indeed! Halcyon underwrites a lot of GUE's costs and losses and as such I'm happy to support them. Halcyon also funds the WKPP and researches a lot of its products on the project dives which I believe is a good testing ground for the stuff that we eventually see brought on to the market. The reason that we can't get HMI lights at the moment is that the whole manufacturing capacity of Halcyon is taken up making them for the WKPP - it is no corporate giant, it is a small scale manufacturer run by divers making dive kit for divers.

Rich is entirely right that Jarrod would be too ethical to object if we chose to sell other kit. Brian already sells products that compete directly with Halcyon and I know quite a few GUE instructors who use and deal in X scooters. Santi were developed in conjunction with AG too - and the undersuits are gaining in popularity as they are well made, carefully designed and well detailed for the problems that divers face.

There are quite a few DIR stylee brands out there who produce acceptable kit which I happily accept students using on my courses. I don't need to sell these products to ensure that my impartiality is worn on my sleeve.
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Well let me spell it out then.

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suggest that you don't think I'm being truthful. That questions my integrity.

If I were to have my instructor status revoked due to me dealing in Salvo, then that would be Jarrods decision. Hence you also question his integrity.

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I apologise unreservedly.
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I used Halcyon kit before I became an instructor, I used Salvo lights but moved to Halcyon as, I am sure Phill will confirm, I couldn't get what I wanted from a Salvo at the time for my cave diving in Mexico.
Indeed I will confirm that.

You wanted that "pocket sized travelling canister"

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