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Old 29-03-05, 12:40 PM
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Why bump a two and a half year old story?
Like I need a reason tp promote diver safety - the stories are not 'time restrained' and if lessons can be learnt by new divers/readers?!

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There were better reports than this at the time.
Then don't just sit there, dig 'em out and post 'em!
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I know it's easy to judge after an event when looking at it from the outside, however...........

1. If the equipment was not faulty, why did they sink back down? and why didn't they just look at their computers?

2. Why not do a controled mid water ascent without the DSMB after it failing twice? or at least get to less that 20m before trying it again?

But as mentioned previously, why do a dive like that after 5 months off anyway?

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Unfortunatly SMB issues feature a lot in diving incidents yet its somthing very rareley taught untill into Advanced Nitrox level diving. I had the grand total of no training in sending up an SMB and one trip to the surface because of one. So self taught and lerning the hard way in my case.
Excellent point, think I'll set up a poll on this
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over-ambitious is spot on,

48m dive is a deco dive , no plan b c or d
dsmd its a aid for the skipper on the boat not for divers to drag them selves back from the deep.

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Trimix was not mentioned so narcosis would have been a big factor once the stress set in. staying deep to sort out an SMB is madness and somthing I am sure neither diver would have done given time and a clear head to think about it.

Unfortunatly SMB issues feature a lot in diving incidents yet its somthing very rareley taught untill into Advanced Nitrox level diving. I had the grand total of no training in sending up an SMB and one trip to the surface because of one. So self taught and lerning the hard way in my case. Not good at all. The agencies should look carefulley at this and not rely on individual instructros to sort out the problem.


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Spot on Mark, why doesn't PADI provide training on this as part of, at least the AOW? big gap in thinking me thinks.
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dsmd its a aid for the skipper on the boat not for divers to drag them selves back from the deep.

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Unfortunately, we see too many divers "winding themselves up" using the reel under a dsmb
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this thread started in 2002????
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this thread started in 2002????
Ah, I remember 2002, Wagon Wheels were much bigger
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this thread started in 2002????
And how divers die changed since 2002????
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self inflating dsmb

Its always sad to read about a diving death.

One of the biggest difficulties with deploying an smb whilst under stress is inflating the bugger.

Especially if on ccr.

Our group all carry Self Inflating SMB's. Crack it and let it go. Just make sure the reel is not attatched so if it snarls you can let go.

Expensive, but a godsend in an "oh sh**t" scenario.

I would recommend it

BUT PRACTICE IN A POOL HOVERING IN MID WATER FIRST
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