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| Training Forum: Discuss Solo Diving in the Training Area forums: We've had a quite a few threads in the past and some very recently discussing the finer points of ... |
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| Imported post Dave I dont think,that a one day course can give you the trainig one needs to dive solo. I take customers for dives every day and look after them. So After work i like my solodives and have no one i have to look after. Michael |
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| Imported post I'd have to agree with you Mike, a one day course doesn't seem enough, but the idea of such a course does appeal to me and I hope similar courses, albeit more extensive become the norm. You're a lucky git being able to dive all day every day... I'm seriously jealous ;) Best regards Dave |
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| Imported post Aside from the obvious redundant equipment considerations, would you not say the most important aspect of solo diving is the correct mindset? |
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| Imported post Absolutely Andy, but remember I'm not really advocating solo diving but rather advocating being trained and equipped to be capable of solo diving or self sufficient diving if you will, so that one can still dive with buddy's but no longer having to be reliant on those buddy's (Edited by Dave Williamson at 3:13 pm on Oct. 19, 2002) |
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| Imported post Whats the difference? |
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| Imported post Advocating solo diving would mean that I think divers should train to be completely self sufficient for the purpose of going off and diving alone.... I wanted to make sure people didn't think that that was the aim of this thread, and that was why I made the comments to Andy... I've tried to reword my previous post so that it makes more sense but I'm afraid I just keep saying the same thing in slightly different ways.. to me, the statement make sense.. sorry big fella |
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| Imported post No need to apologise - I was, in fact, agreeing with you. By training to dive solo, you are doing so not to rely on a buddy. So no real difference between solo and self-sufficiency except you are sharing the experience with someone else with the latter. |
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| Imported post Aha - at last some interesting debate. First off, I believe the buddy system is a cornerstone of diving, both during training and beyond - a kinda safety/social event. As I dive more and more, particularly more challenging diving such as cold water/crap vis in the UK, I have learnt to both respect the buddy system AND self sufficiency/redundancy. Self-confidence in my own abilities is a state of mind. Example - I always (even 6m hops in the local dock) have my pony available, always carry a spare mask & knife. Why ?? - I have learnt from this and other forums of what has actually gone wrong and try to build in back up. You cant always rely on your buddy who has disappeared in the 2m vis so you have to rely on yourself. My pony is rigged for ME, yes my buddy can use it but if my life is threatened then the buck stops with me. I will develop this further in the future by getting twins, dual bladders etc etc - BECAUSE IT HELPS MY STATE OF MIND AND HELPS ENJOY THE DIVE without the potential for anxiety ruining a dive. This may reflect on my state of mind - but hey, each to thier own. So yes, agree with self sufficiency Given that I am/will become more self sufficient, will I try solo diving ?? - Yes I will. Bear in mind my idea of solo diving is not to jump into an unknown pit/sea and go for it - I would have to know the site well first which means I will start by buddying up a few times. Even then, I would not dive solo in a site where I was the only diver - I would dive solo in a site that I both knew well and had other divers present - again I guess its a state of mind. So, to conclude - yes to buddy diving, yes to self sufficiency and yes to solo diving within the bounds of ones own ability and mind state. Finally, when I am DM-ing on courses I am solo all the time whilst keeping a close eye on students who are being instructed - is this solo |
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| Imported post An interesting thought Kirky about that fact that DM's and instructors are diving solo. But are they? I would hope that students by the time that they are in open water will have sufficent training that they would be able to render some sort of assistance. I do believe that every diver should be self sufficent, I can think of no-one who I would trust my life to, its mine and I want to keep it. Nor would I give it up to save you. The problem with solo diving is, that if it becomes acceptable/the norm, we will see those students you feel are not up to buddying you, diving and dying solo. The powers that be will then clamp down on/stop all diving. At what stage would you let some-one dive solo? After a 2 day PADI course? A good debate and one which needs sound arguements on both sides, what would we, the diving comunity gain except an occasional dive when no-one wants to go out to play. What we stand to loose is incalcuable. |
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