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| Training Forum: Discuss Kitting up quick: It's a life or death thing... in the Training Area forums: I dont beleive it. Total muppit, hide in a closit, shoot your self dive and it was part of my ... |
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| Imported post Gotta disagree there Chasey old boy. Quick kitting up is a good excuse, and something that shouldn't have to be done. As for the old not being disciplined bit. Did you learn from it? if so then thats discipline. Don't bang yourself on the head about it. Best of luck with the rest of the course. Tell us how it goes please. |
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| Imported post When Mr CCR said: "Are you ready yet?" The answer should've been "No - I need another ten minutes to do ALL my checks." If that's no goood for him then find someone that's more safety minded. At the end of the day - you came back safe, learned a valuable lesson and you ca move forward. Don't be so hard on yerself. |
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| Imported post Wow Mark, way to go mate... a great read and i feel for you as there's nothing worse than being rushed before a dive, any dive never mind a 50m training dive.. Mark, I wasn't there and so might get slated for saying this but based on what you've written I think your instructor failed you badly.. I think as a pressured and frustrated student you might be willing to put up with a few problem with the mndset of of "Oh bugger it, lets just do it" but your instructor should have a cool calm head and have a completely unbiased view... if the dive wasn't to be then it wasn't to be. Firstly I'm suprised that after doing a bubble check at 6m and realising that your travel gas was leaking from a high pressure port that he did not abort the dive.. is this not the whole reason we do a 6m bubble check to find problems before its too late? too progess onto a 50m training dive armed with the knowledge that the HP port on the students travel gas could go at anytime was ludicrous. I'm also suprised then that he allowed you to use your helium based back gas for your drysuit.. this could of chilled you very badly during a decompression dive with all of the inherent problems that would bring on.. used as a last resort to get you to the surface maybe, but to start a long deco dive with helium based insulation is madness.. another reason to have called the dive there and then... I also find it hard to accept that an instructor would teach a student on O/C while he was on a rebreather with different deco obligations and dive profile, knowing that you would become separated during ascent, what on earth was he thinking? Was he carrying some sort of bailout for you/himself incase there were problems down there? Mark mate, I'm being serious not argumentative here, I'd be asking this geezer the same questions, now I realise that you might feel a certain loyalty to this guy but he did not do you the student any favours whatsoever. BTW mate, get yerself an argon bottle, linking your drysuit to a stage just isn't cricket ;) Glad to see you're ok but I'm hoping that this post raises a discussion cos I feel that your instructor was out of order. Best regards Dave. |
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| Imported post Well said Dave, Saved me lot's of typing there. It strikes me the Instrutor was taking the opportunity to have his own dive rather than doing what he should have been doing. Duty of care, hum, different depths for deco stops. Enough said by me, I am sure there are more to come. As far as the point of kitting up, I rush for no-one and as recently using borrowed twins, people are politely told to bugger off and leave me alone while I kit up. |
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| Imported post Sorry if this sounds a bit tough but....... I read this and my jaw dropped. So I read it again and I couldn't believe what I was reading. Tell me this is a joke. I cannot believe this was a training dive, with an instructor? on a CCR? a failed bubble check? you were on different schedules? you ascended alone? you did your gas switch alone? you used a helium mix in your dry suit? Please, tell me it's a joke. |
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| Imported post Sorry Mark, can't resist the joke Now you know why it's called a slob knob. Andrew |
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| Imported post Out of curiosity (not familiar with Trimix) what is the slob knob? |
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| Imported post Its an extension device for operating your valves without having to reach behind you. |
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| Imported post Following on from Bob's comments, this is a similar thought, perhaps taking control and saying "Oi, Instructor, nooooooo....." was part of the test? Maybe you were expected to tell him he was wrong? I once heard a similar tale about cave diving training. If I was doing a 50m dive I wouldn't be happy with the scenario described, especially with your Ins on CCR, Chee-az Steve |
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