Dive skills and inconsequential drivel

[markg]

<font color='#000F22'>hi malcolm,
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; no that's just the way he is. think he's only been below 10m a couple of times and i can't remember the last time he dived outside the swimming pool, but he tries to rule with a rod of iron because he's a BI.

you a BI by any chance malcolm

[Dr Stevil]

<font color='#0000FF'>Assuming that you're describing a BSAC Club scenario:
A Branch Instructor (I'm assuming that's what BI stands for)  has no &quot;authority&quot; to &quot;rule&quot; over anything, they are there to instruct and if a trainee has cause for concern they should make this known asap. Plus the instructor should discuss with their trainees during the dive briefing what senarios are going to be covered and how and why.

If this guy is as bad as you have described then someone should inform his DO, but a good DO should be involved anyway and should know the styles of his/her instructors.

If the DO is as bad as the BI then your friend needs to find a better club to train with, every club is different, the Area Coach or Regional Coach should be able to help.

I don't personally know any instructors who aren't active and safe divers with plenty of experience, I've certainly met a couple who, to me, seem like complete A-holes but not in terms of safety or instruction quality.

HTH
Steve
(BSAC OWI)

[sprozman]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (malcolm smith @ June 02 2003,23:46)]was the reg snatching part of an exersize in an out of air situation?

My PADI Instructor did that to me without warning, at the time I was well annoyed but looking back it was good training.

Maybe it should be done as standard practice?

[Digger]

<font color='#000080'>We used to do it in the Rescue Course. Point at something, and as they turn their head, nick off with their reg. I used to enjoy stealing it and then sitting on their back. Great fun.

We play underwater mugging too. Whenever you're in the water without a trainee, you're game for having anything and everything nicked. I remember getting back on the boat with nothing but an undone wetsuit and a weightbelt on. Nice.

I got a bit p*ssed when I was on a deco stop and a couple of mates decided that was a good time where I would be stuck on a line for a while. I don't think they realised I couldn't bolt for the surface!!!

All part of the fun. I had a challenge from one of our over-confident Ocean Divers a couple of weeks ago. That was fun. Turns out he couldn't clear a mask with no reg in. He got his priorities straight after that. You can live without being able to see, but you don't last long if you can't breathe. And you can't turn a tank back on if you can't reach the valve.

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]You can live without being able to see,

Amazing how confused an instructor gets when he removes his mask, hands it to you, and then you hand him back.. a pineapple

Or the ever-popular mask with no glass...

[Dr Stevil]

<font color='#0000FF'>Memo to self - if ever diving with Dominic or Digger, remove nice safe trauma shears and replace with 6 sharp inches of Sheffields finest!
I dunno, you young 'uns &nbsp;

[malcolm smith]

Hi Mark,sort of a branch instructor in semi-retirement at the moment SSAC----our club is lucky enough to have several BIs at present, so the grizzled old veterans can have a rest and go play------OK, maybe not a veteran after seeing the number of dives some on here have done, I sure qualify for the other two!!


All the best, Malcolm.

[Mark Chase]

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]
Dive Guides the world over breathe a sigh of relief when BSAC divers are on board

Errr wrong

1: BSAC training is NOT acepted all over the world M8 There are pleanty of places where you wouldent even be allowed to dive.

I think you will find PADI and CMAS are the only agencies that realy count on a world wide basis.

However
Dive guides the world over usualy have good stories about BSAC divers.

ATB

Mark Chase

[And]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Mark Chase @ June 03 2003,19:22)]

Errr wrong

1: BSAC training is NOT acepted all over the world M8 There are pleanty of places where you wouldent even be allowed to dive.

I think you will find PADI and CMAS are the only agencies that realy count on a world wide basis.

However
Dive guides the world over usualy have good stories about BSAC divers.

ATB

Mark Chase

<font color='#0000FF'>Hi

Interesting, I'd like to hear more about the places I can't dive. I'd then send that info to BSAC and I'm sure they'd be interested to know too.

I'm sure Dive Guides generally will suck up to whoever the customer is. I read a joke a little while ago. Read it below;

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Three instructors and their students are on board a dive boat in the middle of the ocean. &nbsp;There is a NAUI instructor, a PADI instructor, and an SSI instructor. &nbsp;Everything is going fine until the boat springs a leak and starts
to sink.
The SSI instructor says to his students, &quot;Okay, we're in the middle of the ocean, so we might as well do our deep dive.&quot;
The NAUI instructor says to his students, &quot;Okay, we might as well do our navigation dive, so let's get our compasses out and swim towards shore.&quot;
The PADI instructor says to his students, &quot;Okay, for $25 extra you guys get to do a wreck dive!&quot;

It was just a flippant remark Mark, you should chill out a bit mate and not get too upset about things

Kindest Regards

WL

PS Like the signature by the way

[Andy Phillips]

I heard a great song about BSAC in Sharm one year, by a couple of guy's that called themselves the Deco Boys, it wasn't exactly complimentary. Very funny though.

Before anyone has a pop, I am both PADI, BSAC and TDI

So there.

Andrew

p.s., WL your real name isn't Vic is it?