Repetition Training

[DAFFY]

Whilst at guildy last week carrying out adv. nitrox practicles I ran into Garf and co who were carrying out DIR drills. This got me thinking about skills and training. Our club I suppose are a typical club i.e get you through OD/SD then the instructors move onto the next group of trainees and little emphasis is placed on practising learnt skills. In a report by Jack Ingle he identified this issue and highlighted the sort of skills that should be practiced i.e.

Kneel on the bottom of a swimming pool, remove your primary regulator, fit and breathe from the secondary, then stow the primary in a very accessible position on your front in the chest area (the chest area is easy to get to and close to your mouth, which is the orifice it best fits in! The use of a small piece of surgical elastic is ideal for stowing regulators.
Reverse the process in step 1
Repeat steps 1 and 2 (10 to 20 times).
Repeat step 1 and 2 with your eyes closed (10 to 20 times).
Repeat step 1 and 2 floating 1 metre off the pool floor. (10 to 20 times).
Repeat this whole sequence in open water with the extra burden of suits, gloves etc.
Keep repeating forever more.


I was wondering how many of you out there in YD land practice skills/drills in pools/lakes/sea and what skill sets do you/should you focus on and should clubs/agencies do more to promote repetative training!!

is it a case of of once learnt then largely forgotten or is it in the words of Jack Ingle

PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE and PRACTICE AGAIN

[DAFFY]

posted this last friday. had 40 views but no replies is it due to:

A) this subject has been done to death therefore not worthy of a reply

B) nobody out there likes me therefore i'm not worthy of a reply

or C) only the DIR guy's are out there doing training!!!!!

some views please as i'm getting a "nobody likes me" complex

[MATTBIN]

B)

No seriously maybe it was during server doo dahs and it got missed.

I practice reg swaps frequently, well I would wouldnt I as I use indies
Other stuff I tend to practice is mask removal, but I like to do that when its about 5C in water, although I do tend to deliberately flood my mask even in winter to be up to date in shock therapy. I also practice shutdowns on my manifolded twins. Kit removal, not underwater, although it is something I do mean to do soon as I have swapped to a single piece harness. Inside the Staney might be a good place, assuming I have already told my buddy of course.

Matt

[Richie]

Originally Posted by DAFFY

posted this last friday. had 40 views but no replies is it due to:


B) nobody out there likes me therefore i'm not worthy of a reply


some views please as i'm getting a "nobody likes me" complex

Sod Off

[Andy the Coastie]

Knowing the crowd you hang about with, i'll answer .


posted this last friday. had 40 views but no replies is it due to:

A) this subject has been done to death therefore not worthy of a reply
There was a change in servers on Friday, so may have been missed or people like me had major problems logging back on .

B) nobody out there likes me therefore i'm not worthy of a reply

Martin B loves ya

or C) only the DIR guy's are out there doing training!!!!! I would have thought someone from your club would have told you what DIR stood for ..Diving Is Repetition diving

[DAFFY]

Originally Posted by Richie

Sod Off

I knew it, it's my winning personality

[nigelH]

It's all about motor skills.
The DIR mob are the only ones that make a big song and dance about it but it's considered unsporting to have a dig at them so we ignored you.

I keep my hands trained by only switching the rig on and turning the gas on once I have put it on. This means I can just reach for a valve blind and turn it, reach for a piece of kit and clip it/unclip it. If you have the valves behind your head it is so difficult to get to them you have to practise hard but when I put mine where I could reach them I ended up on the 'stroke pictures' website.

[Odin]

I'm with Nigel on this one!
But I practice drills everydive...

[Richie]

Originally Posted by DAFFY

I knew it, it's my winning personality

Sorry I couldn't resist it.

I dive from time to time with a DIR type person and we do drills - I'm not DIR by inclination but have found the drills and the concepts useful and thought provoking. Sometimes challenging - Stoney for 1 hr+ and 5 degrees and not doing much physically can be cooling.
Whether continuous repetition is ultimately useful I don't know. It wouldn't work for me since my rig is almost the same each dive I do tend to clip DSMBs. reels and torches on the nearest empty or nearly empty D ring rather than the recommended ,and more anal, everything in it's alloted place.
Variety is all

[DAFFY]

[quote=nigelH]It's all about motor skills.
The DIR mob are the only ones that make a big song and dance about it but it's considered unsporting to have a dig at them so we ignored you.


I'm not DIR I'm BSAC, I was just wondering how many off us carry out repetitve drills/training once we have learnt the drills. Take my club as an example. Great instructors, totally happy with the training I have recieved, yet once the latest batch of trainees have gone through their training the pool lies empty for the best part of the year. In a club enviroment maybe there should be more of an emphasis on practicing skills and perhaps we should take a cue from the DIR guy's and keep practicing, after all this is the advice given to the BSAC NDC by Jack Ingle