Rescue course

[MATTBIN]

I was amongst the crowd as yesterdays events unfolded and although trained at work in cpr and defrib I wouldnt have a clue what to do underwater in the S&R situation. Now this may seem like penny pinching but I dont have the cash available to put Adam & I through an official Padi course and I dont see any point in paying through the nose just to have the ticket just to show you've done it.

I guess I'm not the only one who is strapped for cash, but I came up yesterday nowhere near my NDL  and with plenty of gas on my back, but would have been virtually useless. So is there anyway we (YD) can put together a 'rescue' course for those of us that havent a clue in what to do. I would be happy to help out in the cpr thing and even run through the defrib side of things, which to be honest doesnt actually require a working unit, unless someone can get hold of one, I'll see if I can borrow the one from work.
What I'm looking for is how to do a proper S&R, maybe at Stoney or Wraysbury.

Anyone else interested in giving or receiving a 'course', be great if we could make this a freebie. We would all understand that we would be acting as good samaritans therefore wouldnt be held liable if we only did our best. After all we might not be at Stoney when we were needed, and any S&R would be better than none.

Matt

[daz]

If any kind benefactor is willing to put a group through the training required I am more than willing to help out with being a victim.

Just one consideration Matt,  proof of rescue training is of benefit in these situations as well as moving up the ladder so a ticket or equivilent proof of training maybe beneficial.  In which case there maybe a cost for the admin side of things such as pic fees to PADI.  Should be minimal though.

Daz

[peter k]

Daz,
     I don't think Matt's looking for a shiny wee card, more just to have half a clue what to actually do.

Peter
Taught Rescue from first qualification.

[CotoChris]

<font color='#0000FF'>Many of these courses is very dependent on the instructors (aren't they all?), I thought the Padi Rescue Course was by far the best course I've done being the one I learnt the most. What the course did to me was realise how important everyone should know hoe to do first aid, I can't believe this isn't being taught at schools. Since taking the Rescue Course I try to do a refresher from the local Red Cross every two years.
For Search &nbsp;&amp; Rescue a lot of practise helps. The problem is that you only have very few minutes to find the victim for him/her survive, that is if you can resucitate them in the first place.

[Mark Chase]

Mat

I dont know the official line on this because I have never done had formal training. However I have been shown what to do by a very experianced diver and this is how he did it.

In the case of Stony where the resident divers probably know every rock in the place this may not be necessary but the general principle is to start from a likley point of recovery and to not cover the same ground twice.

To acheive this you need a reel and a lot of line. Drop on the bottom / wreck tie off the line and if its a flat bottom like Stony you can work outward in ever increasing circles letting out a viz length amount of line at each pass. If its a wreck you have to lay a grid.

If working in a teem of two and you not on a wreck you can do it on a compus with one diver concentrating on the compus and one on the serch. &nbsp;

ATB

Mark Chase

[MATTBIN]

What I was thinking of is something for a group of us, the pic card would be usefull and if the 'course' cost was that plus say petrol/entrance and a beer for the instructor then I'd hope a few of us that arent 'trained' would be up for it.
I'm not really fussed about the 'ticket' but I must admit I felt useless yesterday, I suspect I might not be alone as I know a lot of the 'new' guys on here are quite inexperienced and it seems a shame that finance might stop some of us doing the course when it might benefit someone else. Admittedly I am slightly biased as I have two to pay for.
Matt

[peter k]

That's just a standard sweep search Mark. It's used to look for anything you're, err, looking for, be it a torch, wreck or missing diver. A standard sweep won't be much good either if you're looking somewhere with a current. Just take the last known where-abouts and start to fin downstream. Means you'll catch up with whatever is being swept. &nbsp;

There's all sorts of other bits'n'pieces in recovering a diver that you need to know. Tilting their head back and shoving up into their diaphram(?) being the two that immediately come to mind. If you don't do these, the chances are you'll do more harm than good.

Then on top of that what to do on the surface. This is where a bit of debate comes into it. Do you start EAR immediately or do you assume they've not got a pulse and go straight to the shore and start CPR/EAR? Not quite made my mind up on that myself! Suspect it would be an &quot;on the day&quot; call.

Peter

[Dr Stevil]

I've ran the BSAC O2 Administration course a few times and this covers rescue scenarios as well as the actual O2 administration but it's too much work for one instructor, if there's any other BSAC Ins who'd get involved we could run the non-BSAC-ers thru the course in an &quot;unofficial&quot; capacity. It's a fairly full day of lectures and practical work and we'd need several resusci-annie manikins

[Mark Powell]

Count me in to help. I teach SAA O2 Admin and Diver Rescue courses.

The ticket thing would be difficult to resolve as divers and instructors might be comming from different agencies but I'm more than happy to get involved in whatever we can put together.

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (peter k @ Feb. 22 2004,13:37)]There's all sorts of other bits'n'pieces in recovering a diver that you need to know. Tilting their head back and shoving up into their diaphram(?) being the two that immediately come to mind. If you don't do these, the chances are you'll do more harm than good.

Peter

Sorry I missunderstood the question. I thaught Mat was refering to how to locate the object / diver. There will be two tasks here, serch and recovery and surface rescue. Obviously the surface team will carry out the CPR etc. untill they get dry side.

Getting the diver up and short term medical attention is covered by Rescue Diver course (But I thaught Matt had done that) Serch and recovery is a diferent ball game.

ATB

Mark Chase