New qualifications question

[Dave Crampton]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Mary @ Mar. 07 2004,16:31)]

but only if you have done them before joining BSAC, do them after joining BSAC and they count for sweet FA from what I've heard

<font color='#000080'>Would one of the DOs like to coment on Marys post? I have don a TDI course and would like to use it whilst diving within my club but cna't be certain what I'm allowed to do.

Dave C

[Tim Ingmire]

Well I did the SDI o2 / CPR course after joining BSAC and still got the statement of alternative training from them for my log.

[Mary]

<font color='#F52887'>Maybe the situation has changed? This was what I had heard via the grape vine and also in THIS ARTICLE in Diver last year

[Dave Crampton]

<font color='#000080'>Hmm, I'll have a word with my DO.

[msssltd]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (dcrampt @ Mar. 07 2004,17:18)]

Would one of the DOs like to coment on Marys post? I have don a TDI course and would like to use it whilst diving within my club but cna't be certain what I'm allowed to do.

Dave C

TDI, IANTD, PADI, ANDI and ITDA &nbsp;are all recognised

Here is the link
Nitrox diver equivalents

Note the bold print about &quot;ensuring&quot; you stay within BSAC recommended SDPs. &nbsp;The implication is that the recommendations are in fact rules when it comes to Nitrox diving.

To dispell some other myth and legend. &nbsp;BSAC are the governing body of sport diving in the UK - they are not the law. &nbsp;Staying within BSAC Safe Diving Practices will not guarantee immunity from negligence claims. &nbsp;Similarly diving or allowing somone else to dive outside SDPs, will not mean you are automatically guilty of negligance. &nbsp;It is very much down to the lawyers/coroner/judge to claim and decide who if anyone is to blame.

What may be an issue is the status of your BSAC 3rd party insurance should you allow someone to dive outside SDPs. &nbsp;If you happen to be the one outside the SDPs then you are hardly going to claim from your own 3rd party insurance. &nbsp;However if you allow someone else to dive outside the SDPs and they have an accident, you could conceivably be uninsured against action from them or their estate.

That is as I understand it.

Being chairman of a branch, I think it is important to know which rules I might be breaking

Regards
Matt

[JohnD]

<font color='#F52887'>you can get certain qualifications recognised as &quot;alternative SDC's&quot; for your qualification records, and experience should be recognised by your training officer.

[Janos]

The TDI etc qualifications do cross over to appropriate BSAC Nitrox SDCs.

I was a bit disappointed with the Diver article. I know BSAC has its limitations, but I don't understand why a CCR or Trimix qualification should cross over to Dive Leader, which is very much focused on O2 admin / Rescue Management / Marshalling other divers.

Laters,
&nbsp; &nbsp;Janos

[JohnD]

<font color='#F52887'>BSAC only Sanctions the Use of the Azimuth Nitrox Semi-closed Rebreather in BSAC Branches.maybe that is why, on the question of RB's that the training was not recognised. and as far as i know, mixed gas diving is not recognised at all. (waiting to be proved wrong)

[Janos]

Mixed gas is recognised, but BSAC does not (as yet) issue it's own qualifications. Yet. One NI in our club has been known to dive a Draeger, and another has done an Inspiration course for the fun of it.

I'm sure one of the &nbsp;rebreather guys will be along in a moment to give us the proper line, I'm afraid I don't know chapter and verse as I'm still saving. &nbsp;

In the Diver article Chris Boardman made the point that he was a BSAC Sports Diver as his CCR and trimix quals did not cross over to Dive Leader, and IMHOTEP, I don't think they should as it's like comparing apples and oranges.

Laters,
&nbsp; &nbsp;Janos

[Dominic]

If by that you mean Trimix, John, then go to the BSAC website and search for &quot;trimix&quot; -links such as this one clearly state that qualifications from other organisations are recognised by the BSAC and can be used on BSAC dives..

When it comes to rebreathers, they only sanction CE-approved ones - the Inspiration and a couple of SCRs.. there's been discussions on the board of how daft this is, since a single modification to a rebreather voids the CE marking, and just about everybody tinkers with their gear..

Incidentally, I can't see the problem with CB's situation - most of Dive Leader is about rescue skills and leading inexperienced divers. What on Earth has that got to do with Trimix and rebreathers??