O2 Admin training

[daz]

Hey Kev,

It would be rude of me not to take advantage of your good nature !!.  Would you be interested in doing a O2 admin course at Stoney as suggested by Matt ?,  I could try to drum up some interest,  I am sure if we can get enough people interested we could cover your entrance, petrol and of course the obligatory bacon buttie and pint, PICs, O2 plus a bit for your time and effort.

If you are interested maybe we can set a tentative date in a month or so and see what the interest is.

Bagsy being a victim,  aaahhhh O2 after a bit of a night out... ;)

Daz

(Edited by daz at 3:23 pm on Jan. 24, 2003)

[ian Price]

I'd put a bid in for it Stoney or Hull!
Ian

[Kev Martin]

All

No, I hadn't forgotten the offer.

Stoney do not - as a rule - hire out any classroom accommodation to outside instructors.  Therefore, the venue will have to be Hull.

I am away from 16 Feb to 3 Mar and would therefore like to book the 15 or 16 March.  If you are interested, please let me know and I will make up numbers.  I will then work out a final total (to include lunch and refreshments).

Regards

Kev

[Jay]

Kev - once you get a date, if you need a hand I should have my PADI AI in three weeks so give me a shout and I can troll over to Hull.

[And]

Hi

I have recently completed two courses at Stoney. This was with East Mids BSAC and we used the room under the pub. I think you may be able to book that room.

Kindest Regards

WL

[daz]

Room under the pub ?,  bit wet isn't it ;)

Daz

[And]

Hi

It is actually, and dark, and the floor is sticky.

Theres a small glass floor bit that lets you look down and see divers doing their thang !

Kindest Regards

WL

[Kev Martin]

Heads Up - good luck with the AI.

WL - thanks for the information.  Would assume that I will need to telephone the pub itself.  Wonder if the school at Stoney know that there is a room going for grabs to independent instructors?

Please keep posted and I will let you know venue soonest.

Regards

Kev

[budgy]

When I worked with safety regulations on the mines we sometimes arrived at a situation we called eye blind. Something that appeared to serve the purpose for safety but in reality was a just a token for regulations appearances sake, like the wrong type of fire extinguisher, empty first aid boxes and u/s safety equipment. I have held various first aid certificates since the late 70's and have a diploma in mine safety management. Regarding O2 admin course I did, it was worth about a fiver, maybe less. A decent dive medic course it isn't.  Some people think you can teach O2 admin without physically practising using the equipment.  Although reading a book, or looking at it is better than nothing, I thought I was paying for training and to me the only acceptable effective training is hands on.  IMO most of the 3 litre kits on sale are inadequate for people who dive in out the way places. You have a diver showing the effect of deco sickness, ideally you immediatly put the patient and the buddy on O2 as they have both done the same dive.  For dive planning purposes BSAC regard the average surface consumption rate as 25 litres a  minute and the average O2 cylinder pressure is 200 bar then with 2 breathing from a 3litre cylinder it lasts around 12 minutes.  People in pain may or may not be doing a lot of fast shallow breathing.  You may have a lower consumption rate and I have no knowledge of how adequate 25 litres a min is as an average consumption for estimating purposes.      


(Edited by budgy at 8:26 pm on Feb. 4, 2003)

[Phil Ennis]

Budgy,
The DAN course is very 'Hands On' and IMHO a must do, or an equivelant, from what Steve W says about the BSAC course it also sounds good. I think it was Steve W sorry if I am wrong.
Also with regard to the small cylinders, Budgy's comments are very important, we usually carry a 10litre cylinder when in the wilds. We work on the assumption that we need enough 02 to keep two divers on 100% untill an ambulance or coastguard would get to us.