Dive Cellar
+ Reply to Thread
Page 4 of 4
FirstFirst 1 2 3 4
Results 31 to 36 of 36

Thread: 'The Illinois' - A Stroke's Tale

  1. #31
    Bob Cooper's Avatar
    Bob Cooper is offline Senior Member Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Bromley, SE London
    Posts
    1,214
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Imported post

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (malcolm smith @ Aug. 22 2003,21:51)]Great report Mark, so detailed I almost thought I was there enough to put it in my logbook  

    By the way, if Bob Cooper is out there and has done this wreck, any chance of a report so we can hear of other ways of doing these dives?

  2. #32
    Bob Cooper's Avatar
    Bob Cooper is offline Senior Member Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water Bob Cooper is a scuba diver - cold water
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Bromley, SE London
    Posts
    1,214
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Imported post

    Since you ask, yes I dived the Illinois just a couple of weeks ago:

    I had arranged this dive ages ago.  In fact, I remember getting a call from Anke Otto in May, while I was in France.  Anke was keen to do a scooter dive.  I remember checking my diary and saying yes!

    I arrived in Weymouth and unloaded my gear onto Autumn Dream.  There were a few familiar faces on the boat, Jez Kent, Michael Williams and Ian McDean.  No sign of Anke though!  The other divers on the boat that day were mostly KISS RB divers.

    Anke arrived, and I helped her load her gear.  When Autumn Dream slipped her moorings we started setting up our gear.  Anke had a near empty 21m bottle, so we discussed what to do about it.  Luckily, she had a fill whip, so went around "stealing" about 10bar from all the 50% bottles on the boat. By the time she'd finished, she had  nearly full bottle, so we were in business!

    On the way out we discussed the procedure with the trapeze.  I don't like these things and prefer to use a DSMB.  However, we decided to use the trapeze, since that seemed to be the way that everybody liked to do things.  We use these things up in Liverpool Bay and they are reasonably sucessful, but I'd never used one with so many divers before.

    We all manufactured our own "tag".  Mine consisted of a line arrow with my name on it, tied to a small boltsnap.  Jez, Michael and I joked that us cave divers must stick together!

    When we got to the wreck, the trapeze was deployed and we kitted up whilst waiting for the slack.  At this stage there was some confusion over who was to go in first.  Originally, Anke and I elected to go last, giving the other divers a better slack window.  We weren't too bothered about the slack, since with the scooters we would hardly notice any current on the wreck.  Then, somebody suggested that we go first, scooter down to the wreck and tie in the shot.  This last minute change of plan had us hurrying to get into our gear, only to find that somebody was already fully kitted, so we reverted to Plan A.

    I should point out that this wasn't really a "team" dive.  Anke and I were a team of course, but we were just guests on a dive arranged by somebody else.

    Anyway, we were the last pair in and after our bubble checks, we descended the line and found the wreck at about 55m.  We had planned a 20 min BT at 60m.  We stayed along the top of the wreck (the Illinois is upright) and once at our target depth, sorted ourselves out, exchanged "okays" and hit the trigger!!  wow!!

    Everybody had attached strobes to the shotline.  I don't think that this is necessary.  If the layout of the wreck is such that you may not be able to find the shot, you should reel off.  If that was the case, I would tie off, clip off the scooter and then go swimming with my reel.  Anyway, on this occasion, vis was reasonably good (12m) and the wreck is easy to navigate so off we went.

    Scootering adds a whole new dimension to diving.  Everything seems to happen at a million miles an hour.  As we scootered along the wreck, I adjusted my speed to match Anke and watched carefully for her light signals.  I was mortified to discover later on that she was having some trouble with a backup regulator that had a tendancy to freeflow....and I hadn't noticed!  It took her three attempts to get my attention and turn the dive around.  I was having so much fun it let my enjoyment detract from my attention to my buddy.  This wasn't a major problem but it did make me think hard about my situational awareness and buddy skills while scootering.  I've had this happen to me before......I've been delayed with a stage or something while buddy goes scootering off into the distance.  It's easy to do.  Hit the trigger for 10 seconds and you will end up a fair distance from your buddy!

    Anyway, we turned the dive.  On stopping, I was suddenly aware of a fair bit of current on the wreck.  I was on the rail and Anke was geting slowly swept across the wreck and behind some accomodation block(?) meaning I couldn't see her light for a few seconds.  I stayed on the rail (this was our visual reference back to the shot line and I treat this like a line in a cave) and pointed my light towards where Anke was to show here where I was and which way was "home".  She had just stopped for a few seconds to sort out her tow cord and quickly got out of visual contact due to the current.  Within a few seconds she reappeared, I confirmed the "exit" direction with my light and we scootered back along the rail.

    On reaching the shotline, we spent a few minutes mooching around and then thumbed the dive.  On the way up we stowed our scooters, cradling them between our legs and were the last pair up so after removing our "tags" we deployed the trapeze and made our 21m switch.

    Back at the trapeze, we found about 10 divers at 6m.  After making our switch to our 100% bottles we both decided to get into a little mischeif!  We unclipped our scooters and decided to "buzz" a few od them!  This is a good way of passing the time but perhaps not such a good way of monitoring your buddy while at deco!

    All in all this was a good dive.  As with all my dives I learnt something (remember, you never stop learning).  I learnt to be far more vigilant when scootering.  This is much harder in the sea than in a cave.  Light signals are much easier to see in a cave.

    We had no drama, stress or problems.  Regarding the trapeze, I would offer the following advice.....Don't touch it!!!!  Use it as a visual reference only, but don't rely on it!  Use the bottom timer on your wrist and your ears.  What happened to Mark on his Illinois dive was unfortunate and I am surprised that Phil managed to get Tango caught up like that.  If that had happened to me I think I would have bagged off there and then, but it's easy for me to say that after the fact.

    Anyway, our Illinois dive was on 18/45 with 50% and 100%.

    I came away from Weymouth and drove to Poole for two more days of offshore dives on Beowulf...Now that's another story..............

  3. #33
    Mark Chase's Avatar
    Mark Chase is offline A short fat well off crap cave diver. Likes wrecks Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    12,979
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 90 Times in 27 Posts

    Imported post

    Top report Bob, thanks for that.

    If you know Phill's boat you will know that he has a line down the starbod side and he prefers to come up to the right sholder of a diver and let him pick up the line and follow it arround to the lift. It was this line that was somehow lifted over one of the bouys and got tangled in the station. It was the fault of the inexperianced diver on the station bouy not swimming away from the station before atracting the boat that caused the problem. It wasnt Phill's fault.

    Also this was the first diver back on the boat so Phill was engauged with driving the boat and had no one looking out on the kit deck.

    I just want to be sure people understand it was not Phills fault.

    ATB

    Mark Chase
    Mark, dispite the fact your a Heron shagging tosser I agree with you , Steve S 10/04/08
    ATB as most people will tell you, means Always Talking Boll@cks. My responses to threads should be treated accordingly
    All The Best

    Mark Chase


    Screw the force Luke, use the VR3

  4. #34
    malcolm smith is offline Senior Member malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills malcolm smith was born with gills
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    cumbria
    Posts
    539
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Imported post

    Very many thanks to both Bob and Mark for the reports.
    The more of these we can read, the more we will learn-----I guess we never know how our posts are perceived by others, mine very rarely are intended to imply any criticism, and most certainly in this thread none has been intended.
    Lou, you have got me paranoid----did you mean me as a critic  

    All the best, Malcolm.

  5. #35
    MATTBIN's Avatar
    MATTBIN is offline Just not enough dive time. MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills MATTBIN was born with gills
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Home - Harpenden/Work - Ruislip
    Posts
    9,120
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Imported post

    Mark M8 sometimes your spelling makes it really hard to follow, I know why so dont explain, but this was a Classic,

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Mitsubushy Worrier
    and I reckon its a million times better than the original name anyway  

    Matt

  6. #36
    Mark Chase's Avatar
    Mark Chase is offline A short fat well off crap cave diver. Likes wrecks Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune Mark Chase is really Neptune
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    12,979
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 90 Times in 27 Posts

    Imported post

    I am truley sorry M8

    I spend all day writing reports and I have to use spell check, the oxford dictionary and The South East 1 and London Postal adress book to check spelling probably 200 times a day. So please forgive me that when posting for my passion of diving I just cant be arssed to cut paste to Word and spell check
    before re pasting to the board.

    Beleive it or not I also teach and lecture on Surveying buildings. I always say at the begining I am dyslexic so unless you cant understand what I have writen on the board dont bother correcting me. It wont help my condition.

    I do however apolagise for the inconveniance caused by my lazeyness.


    ATB

    Mark Chase
    Mark, dispite the fact your a Heron shagging tosser I agree with you , Steve S 10/04/08
    ATB as most people will tell you, means Always Talking Boll@cks. My responses to threads should be treated accordingly
    All The Best

    Mark Chase


    Screw the force Luke, use the VR3

+ Reply to Thread
Page 4 of 4
FirstFirst 1 2 3 4
Dive Cellar

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Forums Directory
MV Valkyrie - Scapa Flow