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Old 11-07-05, 11:33 AM
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Now just where were you when you took the crab and lobster, you are aware that some parts of that coastline is a marine reserve and you are NOT allowed to take them.
Ha ha - are you a teacher. Of course I'm aware that large parts off pembrok are protected marine reserve. When you charter a boat, you get a skipper who tells you when you are allowed to take, and when you can't - in addition to knowing and respecting this ourselves.

"Now just where were you....."

ha ha ha - you sound like you want me to give you a map reference. You'll just have to trust me.
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I go on the principal of what a feller from the MCA told me when he came to do a seasearch course. He was asked what he thought about taking crabs and lobsters, and replied that he never took more than he was going to eat that day.

I think this is a sensible policy and is one I stick to. I also try not to take the ones that are too small, and indeed too big, as the huge ones are the ones that breed lots.

Given that I eat fish, I think that diver caught food is perhaps the most environmentally friendly way to go about it.

Obviously I don't take stuff from marine reserves, and if i'm diving with a buddy who's doesn't share my views, then I won't take stuff with them as I don't want to upset them.

But there's nothing worse then someone who takes stuff and doesn't eat it (or collects spidge and then it sits there rusting before being binned)

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and i hope the lobby was not v-notched! if it was then that is part of the protected brood stock for cardigan bay and the pembrokshire coast. Thats a £1000 fine per lobby thats taken with a notch!

I aint no tree hugger - seen as my father in law is a lobby, salmon and mussel fisherman. Check out the NWNWSFC website www.nwnwsfc.org for details on catch sizes, lobby sizes etc

Been on this thing aswell

http://www.nwnwsfc.org/Home_English_...v__aegis_.html

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No, it's £5000 and confiscation of all kit!
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I can see a real pro / anti bagging argument starting.
And I'm sure that wasn't your original intention - was it?
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having dived with some guys who are happy to take only what can be eaten. I've seen nothing funnier than 2 6ft burly guys get beat up by a big lobby, i had to dump air and hold my mask and reg in cos i was laughing so much. it still makes me chortle thinking about it. Ninja lobbies rule!!!

as has been said before i see more people coming up empty handed than those coming up with dinner.
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But there's nothing worse then someone who takes stuff and doesn't eat it (or collects spidge and then it sits there rusting before being binned)

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Absolutely agreed - that's dispicable.
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I also must admit to being quite picky on what comes into my catch bag,
And as we have the local MAF officers there everytime we come out,
Substainable fishing is the only way to go

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Oh. One other thing I picked up from the MCA chap was to avoid prawns (because of the bycatch). And thanks to some education from Ellie, I've started buying haddock rather than cod in the chippy wherever possible.

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it'd be a perfect world if the only seafood you ate was that that you'd caught.

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My whole point on this was the amount caught. To me, thre or 4 over a weekend, for a post that seemed to be mostly about the catching, was excessive. Add to this the comment
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I don't know what she's going to do with all the crab meat - we did eat the lobster between us though.
and I am sure you can appreciate where I am coming from.

I agree that habd catching is far more sustainable, but only where suitable restraint is shown. Take only what you would eat, and eat only occasionally. You don't have to have crab or lobbie four night is a row just becasue you have been diving. Sometimes it is like a kid in a sweetshop, or scary ladies at the first day of the sales - divers grabbing what they can because it is "free".

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