Five go down to the Seaside, one gets bent

[Lou]

Surely that spike that Nick is so concerned about is only representing an approx 8n/min ascent over 8 m at depth of much less than 10m - so why the concern? OK, it isn't great, but it is more conservative than a planned 10m/min ascent and one spike is hardly sawtooth.

[Janos]

I think the profile isn't the most perfect profile and going up and down is bad etc, but have a look at the numbers - I make it around 10m in 2 minutes - so 5m per min. That's not a particularly rapid ascent in my book! I'd be interested to know what the chamber thought.

Anyway, thanks for posting John.

I always tend to be at the dive site way too early as I faff alot and I hate being rushed. I'm normally the one in the carpark wondering where everyone else is!

Janos

[Lou]

Originally Posted by Janos

I always tend to be at the dive site way too early as I faff alot and I hate being rushed. I'm normally the one in the carpark wondering where everyone else is!

So if we see any other lonely souls we know it is you! We are the same. I would rather sit and wait for an hours or two than have to rush. It completely ruins the dive and gets us both very stressed - never a good thing.

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by Lou

So if we see any other lonely souls we know it is you! We are the same. I would rather sit and wait for an hours or two than have to rush. It completely ruins the dive and gets us both very stressed - never a good thing.

Likewise maybe not 2 hours though the only mare dives I have ever had have usually started by rushing about pre-dive.

Thanks for the report John did your mate carry their gear or use a trolley?

Safe diving,
Steve

[Nick Kay]

Wasn't a criticism - just wanted to know why the 6/8m up/down

Glad you're OK

[Andy Phillips]

1. Leave much earlier than required when travelling long distances to get a boat.

Particually if you are using the ferry from Pool to Swanage

2. Make sure every diver in the group has the chance to kit up to their satisfaction, even if there is some pressure to get in quickly.

A lesson we all learn at some point!

3. Dive the Kyarra again on a 15 litre Nitrox.

Or better yet, 2 x 12's, or even better a breather

4. Pay more attention to other divers who are a bit quiet. Check for DCS symptoms even if you think they are quiet for another reason.

Yes, but, sadly we have to rely on the fact that they have the common sense to say something

5. Get fish and chips from the shop on the sea front in Swanage as they are the best in town.

Wrong, the're OK, but the chip n dip from Dino's are generally better chips, and the best fish comes from a shop the other side of town.

Andrew

[Allan Carr]

Originally Posted by MATTBIN

John
glad it all worked out OK.

Just as an aside and no critism intended, when my boy had a suspected bend the people at Whipps Cross pot said they dont like to see an up down of more than 2mtrs. Pretty hard to achieve but it was their opinion. So when we do that, or more, we put ourselves at risk. So that will be every dive then.

Rgds
Matt

Very difficult to achieve on a big wreck - 2m differences in height are nothing. Surely it also depends upon how deep you are since the impact must be dependant upon relative pressure changes - 2m at 40M is less of a proportion than 2m at 30m.

[Janos]

Originally Posted by Andy Phillips

Wrong, the're OK, but the chip n dip from Dino's are generally better chips, and the best fish comes from a shop the other side of town.

Christ mate. If you were a better f*&^%$in' fish and chip eater you would know what you're talking about.

I can't believe you say the best chip'n'dip comes from Dino's. I don't go there unless I arrive really, really, late on a Friday and everything else has shut up shop.

Of the places within easy walking distance of the pier, then the two fish'n'chip shops side by side are both good, but the one closest to the sea is definitely the better of the two. Occasionally they do have off days, when the batter can be a bit soggy, and the chips a bit underdone for my liking but generally they are very good. They also do excellent pickled eggs, which is great if you are blown out and doing rescue scenarios on the beach in the afternoon.

A bit closer into town there is the hot-baguette shop - it has lots of benches outside, a tank with several live lobsters, and sells plenty of seafood but also some excellent hot baguettes. I particularly like the hot BLT. Mmm. Chips are ok, but you don't get many for a £1.

Coming in closer to the pier, there is the bacon butty van just opposite the end of the pier. They do excellent bacon butty rolls, but I would thorughly recommend their brekafast rolls. Cheap at twice the price. Mmmm.

But Dino's? Pah.

Janos

[MATTBIN]

Originally Posted by Allan Carr

Very difficult to achieve on a big wreck - 2m differences in height are nothing. Surely it also depends upon how deep you are since the impact must be dependant upon relative pressure changes - 2m at 40M is less of a proportion than 2m at 30m.

Possibly but I suspect they are just concerned with a bubble beginning to form as you rise up the water column and then re-compressing it as you re-descend then allowing it to form again (God knows where) as you rise again.
The main issue being I should think that the bubble has shunted across the lungs and got into the wrong side of the blood flow, or crossed a small pfo?

Matt

[John N]

Originally Posted by Andy Phillips

2. Make sure every diver in the group has the chance to kit up to their satisfaction, even if there is some pressure to get in quickly.

A lesson we all learn at some point!

Andrew

I wasn't paying as much attention to this as usual 'cos I wasn't teaching and the diver had a reasonable amount of experience. The skipper wanted us in but in hindsight we could have taken another couple of minutes.

Originally Posted by Andy Phillips

3. Dive the Kyarra again on a 15 litre Nitrox.

Or better yet, 2 x 12's, or even better a breather

Andrew

I'm not ready to go breather yet (if ever). Haven't sorted out a twinset to stick on the wing so that will have to wait. Anyway, I can do reasonable dives on a 15 as you know

Originally Posted by Andy Phillips

4. Pay more attention to other divers who are a bit quiet. Check for DCS symptoms even if you think they are quiet for another reason.

Yes, but, sadly we have to rely on the fact that they have the common sense to say something

Andrew

She was concentrating on the headache I think and obviously denial is another symptom.

Originally Posted by Andy Phillips

5. Get fish and chips from the shop on the sea front in Swanage as they are the best in town.

Wrong, the're OK, but the chip n dip from Dino's are generally better chips, and the best fish comes from a shop the other side of town.

Andrew

There appears to be some debate about this! I took the information from a local so assumed it will be accurate.