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Old 01-09-07, 10:28 PM
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Taking a risk?

So briefly, if I may
Last week I was working in the Isle of Man and thought it prudent to take my gear with me .I rang Mann Scuba Divers in Port Erin and asked them if they could fit me in for a Thurs. afternoon/Fri. morning dive.Yes , say they , at least a couple of times.
Anywho ,morning of the job,all finished,back on the phone.............."no can do, a bit too windy and we are doing an IDC"
So off to the other side of the island where it s flat calm and into the bay.
I d taken the kayak with me so there were other things to occupy my tiny mind and basically the apprentice with me wants o go on the kayak whilst I am pottering about on my own in 4m of gin clear sea water.
40minutes later and he would like a go at that there diving lark.
Basically I let him have a play , no fins, plenty of weight and I was always in the vicinity.........................He realised why I waffle on about it so much.
So..............was I OK to take a newbie for a bit of a giggle or wqas it actually dangerous as In haven t any badges for the job?
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99 times out of 100 i'm sure there would be no problem, well maybe 70/30 in this case

Do you think it was ok?
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we're all adults on here. And glad he enjoyed it!
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99 times out of 100 i'm sure there would be no problem, well maybe 70/30 in this case

Do you think it was ok?
Yes I do, I was that pissed off that my diving was cancelled that I was determined to get a dive in.Only call was a bimble in a bay with no/very slight movement of water.
Popped in alone for thre first time ever for about 40mins before giving the apprentice a play.Like I said before I kept him close ,using the occy and
giving him the chance to experience diving first hand so to speak.c

BTW he thought it amazing and is dying to give it a real go
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Yes I do, I was that pissed off that my diving was cancelled that I was determined to get a dive in.Only call was a bimble in a bay with no/very slight movement of water.
Popped in alone for thre first time ever for about 40mins before giving the apprentice a play.Like I said before I kept him close ,using the occy and
giving him the chance to experience diving first hand so to speak.c

BTW he thought it amazing and is dying to give it a real go

Well if you believe you have the experience and knowledge to deal with any and all of his issues in that environment, and that you thought through all the angles to make sure that your apprentice would be safe, who am I to argue.

The problem comes when the unexpected happens and you have a mask off, reg out diver holding their breath and shooting for the surface pushing off the bottom with all their might and dragging you with them. Their leg power way overcomes any weight you might have given them and you have no chance of stopping them. 4m to the surface would only be a 40% expansion of their lungs so 6 litres tries to become 8.4 litres. Makes a nice froathy, red mess on the surface - but like you said you thought it was fine.
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Basically I let him have a play , no fins, plenty of weight and I was always in the vicinity.........................He realised why I waffle on about it so much.
So..............was I OK to take a newbie for a bit of a giggle or was it actually dangerous as In haven t any badges for the job?
Well there is no actual law that says you cant and ignoring any moral
standpoint.

It all comes down to how much you are willing to pay if it went wrong.
Could be talking a lot of zero's here or even worse.

No good saying it wouldnt happen to me, cause it has happened to
somebody and today may/may not be your lucky day.

Personal choice.
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Well if you believe you have the experience and knowledge to deal with any and all of his issues in that environment, and that you thought through all the angles to make sure that your apprentice would be safe, who am I to argue.

The problem comes when the unexpected happens and you have a mask off, reg out diver holding their breath and shooting for the surface pushing off the bottom with all their might and dragging you with them. Their leg power way overcomes any weight you might have given them and you have no chance of stopping them. 4m to the surface would only be a 40% expansion of their lungs so 6 litres tries to become 8.4 litres. Makes a nice froathy, red mess on the surface - but like you said you thought it was fine.
Putting it like that Brian , then yes , maybe it was a bit daft.
Maybe an instructor course is in order
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Putting it like that Brian , then yes , maybe it was a bit daft.
Maybe an instructor course is in order


You'd probably be quite good at it if you enjoyed looking after him, and liked the thrill of seeing someone love learning how to dive.

But in answer to your question I think it would be fine most of the time, it's what to do if things go wrong that you really have to worry about.
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Fcuk no do not let that manc wonker become an instructor sweet god we'll all be killed You alright Lee me old mate
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Fcuk no do not let that manc wonker become an instructor sweet god we'll all be killed You alright Lee me old mate
Well with all the brushes with the law and authority in general that you ve had in life I doubt I d be able to do anything with you anyway.Plus you d probably nick my kit whilst I was enjoying my cappucinno
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