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I never touched him - it's all lies....
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Helmut Koch Von Zwei 2 July 1968 - 19 March 2010"Heaven ich ein treasury of everlasting joy"Gone But Nicht Forgotten - Rest Von Peace
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At the risk of being ridiculed, humiliated and belittled; could somebody please tell me what a "stroke" is?
Spider Crabs can just f*ck off
Any diver displaying a modicum of individualityOriginally Posted by nomis
sun's out, don't think I need my jacket, thank you
If you have to think about it for more than thirty seconds, you probably shouldn't get in.
Team Ladydive
Team HPDW. cos i'm worth it.
Me!
I provide much-needed sarcasm.
It's American for w*nker.
Puts a whole new light on the next line, doesn't it?
JasonGarf and I went to Wraysbury and had fun (Don't tell my BF
See http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for diving trip reports and the UK Underwater Visibility Database.
See http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/trips2010.html for details about my 2010 dive trips to Plymouth, Weymouth and Eastbourne.
A muppet :-)
Hee hee i remember wondering this a few months back - have a search in the DIR forum. and as for ridiculed, humiliated and belittled - on YD? Never
I never touched him - it's all lies....
Listen love - don't worry your pretty little head about this diving lark. Just make us a cup o tea and leave the chat to us men. And here's £50 - pop into town and buy summat nice - maybe a nice short skirt - sun's outridiculed, humiliated and belittled - on YD?
Helmut Koch Von Zwei 2 July 1968 - 19 March 2010"Heaven ich ein treasury of everlasting joy"Gone But Nicht Forgotten - Rest Von Peace
More yokel than local moi luvver
You smooth talking barstewardListen love - don't worry your pretty little head about this diving lark. Just make us a cup o tea and leave the chat to us men. And here's £50 - pop into town and buy summat nice - maybe a nice short skirt - sun's out
I can see why you get so many restraining orders
Dave
Diving is very much like making love to a beautiful woman,first you do some checks of the site for favorable conditions,then you go down for as long as you can,and if part of your buddy brief you maybe able touch the bottom,then you start to make your way to the end you come up breathless smiling and your cylinders empty.
tasteful and decent diver.
Unfortunately I am not allowed to bestow a green upon your personage.Any diver displaying a modicum of individuality
sun's out, don't think I need my jacket, thank you
According to the YD- o- saurus
Stroke: one who cannot afford to spend thousands of pounds on fancy kit and hours in a pond. One deemed to be an abysmal diver due to the appearance of kit or colour of fins. One happy to be ridiculed and never take offence.
Yvonne veni vidi scubici
Team Peanut Butter
Chap called George Irvine in the US started all the name calling. There is a big article on Frogkick.nl - De Online Gids voor DIR Duiken - Doing It Right Duiken whcih goes through the whole reason and justification for DIR. A lot of it is a very good idea, I think it just grates with the British to be told you have to do it this way or you are 'driven by fear, ego, bullshit and self-concern'. As I have learn't more about diving, I have taken on a lot of DIR ideas, but I agree that the language and arrogance or DIR probably needs to be toned down.
Anyway, the relevent section on what is a stroke is below.
"WHAT IS A STROKE ?
Very simply put, a "stroke" is somebody you don't want to dive with. It is somebody who will cause you problems, or not be any use to you if you have problems. Usually, this is a reflection of the attitude of a stroke, but that can be inherent in the personality of the individual, or others can teach it.
For instance, if somebody is taught that diving is an "every man for himself" sport, that you "can't help somebody deep," that "my gas is my gas," or "know when to leave your buddy," then that is somebody you do not want to be in the water with. Some people are natural strokes, but all too many are created. Unfortunately, people believe best what they hear first, and given the low-level food chain structure of dive instruction, most strokes are man-made, and are then hard to fix.
Obvious strokes are not so bad - you can see them and you know to avoid them. Frequently they will give it away with their choice of gear and gear configuration. If you see something that is a complete mess, makes no sense, is less than optimal, or is designed to accommodate some phobia while ignoring all else, you are dealing with a stroke. If the stroke is pontificating about how he can "handle" deep air diving, or obsessing about depth, or appears to be trying to compensate for internal fears, this is an obvious stroke and you merely avoid them.
The really insidious strokes are those who pretend to be squared away, but are in this game for all the wrong reasons. Usually they wish to prove something to themselves or others, or to overcome some internal fears. These tend to try to do things that they are not ready to do, and when something goes wrong, they flee for their lives.
Diving is not an intuitive thing. It is not a natural thing. Natural reactions of human beings on dry land do not work underwater. To be a good diver, you have to control your natural responses, and know that they can only hurt you, not help you. A stroke cannot do that. A stroke is driven by fear, ego, bulls**t and self-concern."
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