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Old 08-02-05, 04:07 PM
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If i'm not eating them that day it's into the fridge with a damp tea towel over the top which sends them to sleep. Then when i'm ready to cook them it's a knife through the head then into the pan.

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If i'm not eating them that day it's into the fridge with a damp tea towel over the top which sends them to sleep. Then when i'm ready to cook them it's a knife through the head then into the pan.

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I don't throw stuff in live, but dead and unfrozen. However I might start using this method. How long do you cook your crabs and lobbies for if they are frozen to start with.

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Oh that sounds technical.. As a real chef I generally cooked using this scale:

Oven temp - Full Blast Chernobyl level.
Weights- Smidgens Blobs and Dollops.
Time.. When its brown turn it around when its black give it to Jack.
Or more appropriate until its cooked:-) or falling apart.
Is it cooked yet? - is it burnt? then no..
Is that mixed enough yet Chef? - depends how much time we got?
or Whys this sauce Lumpy? Thats not lumpy thats in the recipe.

Incidently I always wanted to write a cookery book. When you opened it up it was going to be blank. I was going to name it "The make it up as you go along cookery book." I am sure it would have sold like er.. Lumpy hot cakes.


And to really answer your question about 10-15 minutes I think, this was a long time ago and I didn't just cook 1 at a time. I could endanger a complete species catering for a Summer Ball.
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Oven temp - Full Blast Chernobyl level.
Weights- Smidgens Blobs and Dollops.
Time.. When its brown turn it around when its black give it to Jack.
Or more appropriate until its cooked:-) or falling apart.
Is it cooked yet? - is it burnt? then no..
Is that mixed enough yet Chef? - depends how much time we got?
or Whys this sauce Lumpy? Thats not lumpy thats in the recipe.
When it's brown it's cooked when it's black it's fooked.

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I'm not saying they're right, but the Norwegian experts say they (lobsters and crabs) don't feel any pain and who am I (or you) to question that? Assuming for the sake of argument that they are right, why seek a more humane way of doing it?
Think my answer to this, would be "Just in case!"
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http://www.vkm.no/dav/0327284150.pdf seems to be the same data.

They acknowledge that Lobsters have pain receptors (nociceptors) then refute they have the ability to sense pain. Pain is accepted as occuring in fish
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We dont have Lobsters over here, but we do have billions of crayfish,

So my method is pretty, much the same as most of the boards here, in the fridge for about 4-5hrs, then a skewer thru the head.
on a personel note I would never eat frozen crayfish as the meat tends to spoil in the freezer and become very pasty ( Due to the water molecules expanding under freezing and fracturing the meat ????).
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investigation and collation of otehr researh suggests they do feel pain when plunged into boiling water. Empirical evidence of them trying to crawl out would tend to support this view
Not necessarily. Earthworms react to hot & dry conditions by trying to get away into damp & cool conditions. They also react to the flooding of their tunnels when it rains by crawling upwards. Earthworms definitively have no brains nor any ability to feel pain.

Many organisms, including jellyfish and even plants, react to stimuli (plants lean towards the sun, the venus fly trap closes over insects, etc). No brain is needed to do so. An organism reacting to a stimulus that is bad for it cannot be construed as evidence of intelligence or the ability to feel pain.

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but purely from a conscience point of view though I prefer the sleeping method.


I go even further and get mine from the fish counter at Sainsburys
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Why? Do Sainsbury's gaurantee their lobsters were killed painlessly and without undue distress?
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