A Good Case of "Jap-Slapping"

[Garf]

a good case of kapap certainly doesn't have the same ring to it. Always thought it sounds like something you'd pick up from a thai brothel

[ahar]

Originally Posted by Mr T.

[...deep sigh ...]

Having been away for a while, I'd [happily] forgotten the tediously baleful and all-pervassive inability to roll-with-it with which certain Pecksniffian-members here are so unfortunately afflicted:

And we'd forgotton the sarcastic, condescending, perflecty (sic) punctuated pseudo-academic replies.

Welcome back Mr T

[tom]

Originally Posted by Mr T.

[...deep sigh ...]

Having been away for a while, I'd [happily] forgotten the tediously baleful and all-pervassive inability to roll-with-it with which certain Pecksniffian-members here are so unfortunately afflicted:


1. Hey tom, thanks for the [green] rep - but you really shouldn't have...no honestly...

2. Being a man of letters, and so steeped in the realms of academe, you'll appreciate me proffering you some further reading so you can continue your research:







Then we have...






And how could we forget:




So we're very clear- the allusion being the Japanese being beaten in this round on the whaling debate. Or, put another way:

Oh how I miss your easy and relaxed banter tom

You know it's funny, I'm sure I clicked 'report bad post', not award reputation. Maybe my mistake, whatever. It's still racist and offensive.

Bye.

[Mr T.]

Originally Posted by ahar

And we'd forgotton the sarcastic, condescending, perflecty (sic) punctuated pseudo-academic replies.

Welcome back Mr T

Back? Call it a flying visit.

"pseudo-academic"? LOL Nothing a decent Secondary Modern education didn't get you in the late 70s/early 80s. Please, keep on aspiring You could get there...with effort.

So this is where the extra £2 billion of tax-payers' money (on top of what is already squandered on the Civil Service) is being wasted: paying, ahem, "Consultants"? Stunning signature you have there.

Money perhaps better spent on teaching grammar and punctuation to the next generation of New Labour's Lost?

Beyond parody.

[sidthejedi]

Not overly happy with the title, but handing out red isn't going to make Mr T retract it any more than a wasp can stop a 747 taking off by flying into the wind screen. The title isn't the important thing here anyway.

I'm massively relieved that Japan failed in this attempt but at the same time this isn't the end of the issue. Sadly Japan will continue attempting to take control of the IWC every single time there is a meeting until the time comes that a) they succeed or b) they are thrown out. The concept of saving face is so central to their way of life that none of the other options are an acceptable solution.

My only hope is that some weighty piece of scientific research is published to convince the minor countries who have currently sided with Japan to switch to the anti whaling camp and hence give the anti whaling countries a big majority. Trying to convince Japan, and the scandinavian countries to stop whaling directly is a complete waste of time.

[Mr T.]

Originally Posted by sidthejedi

The title isn't the important thing here anyway.

Pun/context - sorry if it fell flat. But your statement is correct.

Originally Posted by sidthejedi

Trying to convince Japan, and the scandinavian countries to stop whaling directly is a complete waste of time.

Not so mate - we once had overt (as opposed to today's covert) slavery, and the Western countries managed to abolish that...albeit in time.

Originally Posted by Herodotus (in 'Histories')

We have to hope that there is hope...

Apologies to any 'Consultants' in the house if that was too 'pseudo-academic'.

[sidthejedi]

Originally Posted by Mr T.

Not so mate - we once had overt (as opposed to today's covert) slavery, and the Western countries managed to abolish that...albeit in time.

I'll agree on the time part, and possibly on the stance re the scandinavian countries, but I'll be surprised if the population of Japan ever become outraged enough by whaling to force the government to stand down from their position on the IWC. Phrasing that last part slightly differently, the Japanese delegates have backed themselves into such a corner that it would take an unprecendented response from the Japanese general public in order for them to be forced into such a huge loss of face.

[Mr T.]

Originally Posted by sidthejedi

I'll agree on the time part, and possibly on the stance re the scandinavian countries, but I'll be surprised if the population of Japan ever become outraged enough by whaling to force the government to stand down from their position on the IWC. Phrasing that last part slightly differently, the Japanese delegates have backed themselves into such a corner that it would take an unprecendented response from the Japanese general public in order for them to be forced into such a huge loss of face.

Some very good points here Sid!

Consider this conjecture:

Japan - a nation where 'face' (the potential losing of) is everything? Agreed?

OK.

Japan - a nation which has no natural resources (oil, gas coal etc.) and has to spend obscene amounts of money each year purchasing them from as many countries as will sell them to them? Still agree?

OK.

Japan - a country which will do all in its power to buy/cajole/pressure/bribe all the BFE countries to sell them their vote on the council so that they can get the break they are looking for in the whaling debate? Still agree?

OK.

Japan - finally sees that it is not getting its own way and 'goes it alone' and breaks away from the Whaling council and debate and continues to 'whale' at its leisure.

UN & World community finally says "enough's enough you twats..." (obviously said in uber-simpering diplomatic language) and says "Hey, remember that oil you wanted to buy from us? Well how does suck my Johnson sound? How will you fly your politicians around the globe on All Nippon Airlines with no aviation fuel?"

Can you think of any greater potential for a gov't losing 'face' than not being unable to feed and heat its population - or feed its transport system/power stations?

This of course applies to both Norway and Iceland - although frankly Norway can sit and file its nails and afford to wait it out, given the amount of oil they're floating on (at current estimates between 200 to 400 years' worth of reserves). Iceland's different - but their economy's about to over heat, so they might be more receptive to a UN 'come-on'.

Economics baby. Economics.

[Ken]

The latest from St. Kitts and it's not too good for the whales.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Japan gains key whaling victory


Damn. However, this crappy move may infuriate the anti-whaling nations even more. Karma we hope, will prevail.

[Richard Mason]

Originally Posted by Ken

The latest from St. Kitts and it's not too good for the whales.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Japan gains key whaling victory


Damn. However, this crappy move may infuriate the anti-whaling nations even more. Karma we hope, will prevail.

Symbolic Victory only as it's non binding without a 2/3 majority and they won't get that as long as their arses point towards the ground.


RichardM