Egypt's Shipwrecks

[yellowduke]

Originally Posted by Steve Sub

Jim, do you mean this one? It was there in October...
Steve

That's the puppy. I compared it to a pic I had from a previous trip where the rolling stock doesn't even touch it. It's boats mooring to the wreck all over the place that has done the damage.

Jim

[Steve Sub]

Originally Posted by yellowduke

That's the puppy. I compared it to a pic I had from a previous trip where the rolling stock doesn't even touch it. It's boats mooring to the wreck all over the place that has done the damage.

Jim

In that case, it's a good job it's not the torpedo some guides would have us believe!

[johntemp]

FYI this is how the bow looks now
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[Chardy]

Ned,

welcome to YD.

having accurate info adds to the interest of the dive. When I was in the UK we were searching for a couple of wrecks and getting all the info together before getting wet added so much more to the task.

Keep up the good work

Paul

[divingwizard]

Ned,

Welcome to YD. Been a fan of your work for a while and feel that all the research you do into your work is valuable. I'm kinda interested in history and diving has a way of filling that interest with fun. I try to research a bit myself on wrecks, sites and enjoy it. I feel that the more arcurate the better for me, not some pants plucked out of the air. It, I feel adds more enjoyment to the dive. Not only that, but when talking to friends, family who are none divers you can talk a bit more about why it was more interesting to dive a particular wreck to another.
Keep up the good work and don't be disheartened by some fools of the diving frat. Hope this was the kind of response looking for.
Signed copy would be cool.

Good luck.

[Simon TW]

Hi Ned, Welcome to YD

The Red Sea must have more guide books than any other area populated by Divers.

I like detail and information, however most Red Sea divers are not as dedicated to diving as most people on diving Forums are. They are people who go on holiday and dive, maybe doing as little as 10 o 20 dives a year.

They don't care about detail, they don't even own a full set of kit.

Did you not research your market before starting this project? there are a lot of books on the Red Sea and they arn't expensive.

Good Luck

[GaryC]

Originally Posted by Ned Middleton

What I want you to tell me – as honestly as you can, is simply this:

Am I right or wrong to bother with “accurate” research in the first place?

In other words, for those of you with an interest in such matters, do you care if the technical details provided by me about a shipwreck – especially the one you are either planning to visit or have just visited, are accurate, approximate, guesstimate or plucked out of fresh air?

After all, you are the wreck divers and you will, presumably, make an entry in your logbook or whatever.

Thank you again.

Ned Middleton

I think you have to ask the question who is going to want the detail in the first place. Where a book has many pages devoted to a wreck, which will have the history, colour pictures and extreme detail, then that is best placed on a coffee table or club house.

The level of detail I prefer is for a line drawing of the wreck layout and written desciption of interesting parts. And if possible the coordinates. The problem with wreck diving as an amateur passtime is that you really only get a couple of cracks at the wreck. I like to maximise the amount of wreck that I have seen and the easiest way to do that is get the line drawing and plan my route round it. (Some of the line drawings of the Scapa wrecks are ideal for that) If I can get round it twice I will.

The detail I can (hopefully) see for myself. I do like to ensure that a drawing helps me go in the correct direction.

I also know a lot of divers that dont even like to look at line drawings. They derive their wreck pleasure from the "rummage" and exploring themselves.

So how many divers prefer very detailed pictures, well I dont know, but I think you will find quite a few that dont. However I also suspect that alot of non divers would buy a book with lots of piccys and history.

Personally my sort of book was the old diver series but much better than them are Ron's books. (But Ron's books could do with a few pics in them)

Although I have come out from several dives thinking they were fantasitic. Only to read a comment which looked like it was written by Marvin the manic robot.

Regards

Gary

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Ned Middleton

Am I right or wrong to bother with “accurate” research in the first place?

Hell yes - if you're research isn't accurate then, by definition, is is INACCURATE and you might as well stay at home by the fire and make it all up. If I want a work of fiction, I read Terry Pratchett. Personally I would like to believe that anything I was reading as factual was based on solid research.

Keep it up Ned - your work is appreciated

[Ned Middleton]

Of course the market was fully researched and there is also plenty of new - previously unpublished material in my new book.

I am very confident this book will sell.

But that was not the point of my question.

My question really boiled down to whether or not accuracy of detail was important.

Ned

[yellowduke]

Accuracy is definitely important Ned no doubt about that. Now when can we expect the book on the shelf and how much? It's my birthday tomorrow and I have asked for book tokens!

Jim