Hipania

Just to add to the Sound wreck states.
Breda's engine room/bridge area is getting very ropey, I would wait to the stuff suspended over the engine room collapses before venturing in again.
Hispania is getting a worse list all the time and the bridge area wasn't helped by the scallop boat getting caught on her last year. I suspect at the present rate she will be on her side in the next few years.
Shuna is also looking a bit ropey in the forward holds, the deck beams are starting to give way.
 Breda and Hispania were bought by Puffin, he did try and stop people diving her (Breda) at the beginning and wanted everyone going through the shop to do so. Guess what he was told :-) It is mainly a publicity exercise for the shop.
Incidentally, I have only seen plate from warships (including the Port Napier) being used for scanners, I wouldn't have thought the stuff off the local wrecks was thick enough or of high enough quality to use plus the Hispania sank after the Bomb.

[peter k]

She was built before the bombs though and it's something in the blast furnace process that makes the steel non-irradiated. I believe this is where the bow hull plates on the Thesis went to as well and the Port Napier wasn't salved, she was opened up for the divers to remove the depth charges/mines.

Peter

[Jay]

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Quote[/b] ]Quote: from peter k on 6:15 pm on Feb. 12, 2003
...she was opened up for the divers to remove the depth charges/mines.

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Those BSAC wreckers will take anything!

[peter k]

Who said anything about BSAC, we are all ScotSAC up here. BSAC are amatuers in wreck dismemberment compared to us. No matter how hard I hit these mines with a sledgehammer in my garage the buggers just won't crack open.

Peter

Don't joke about this, I know the guy who took the horns of the mine that used to be on the Greenock..... with a hammer and chisel!??!

[peter k]

A hammer and a chisel. Stupid bugger so he is. That sounds like hard work to me. I found a delicately placed ring of C4 did the job nicely.
On another note. I heard/read a story of a guy trying to remove the explosives from a shell once with a hammer underwater. As he was hitting away someone else took a photo of him. Needless to say the resulting flash was a real suit filling moment for the guy with the hammer.

Peter

[angus Theape]

The Port Napier was opened up during the war to recover the armour plate which had been laid on one of her internal decks. The salvours decided to recover the props at the same time. While blowing the props off, they counter mined one of the mines lying nearby on the seabed, sinking the dive tender boat!

The wreck was then left till the early 50s when is was found to be being illegally worked on by salvours, I can't remember if they detonated another mine. The RN then decided to clear the wreck. They have accounted for 526/7 mines of the 540 on board. It was never concluded as to whether 1 or 2 mines detonated to sink her. The rest were deemed to have been ditched as she drifted from the pier to her present position. The crew did not count exactly what they ditched. The mines recovered were sunk to the north of Kyle of Lochalsh in the area designated &quot;explosive dumping ground&quot;. Operations were brought to a halt when the salvage team were sent to work on clearing the Suez canal after the 56 Suez crisis. The explosive in many of the mines had turned crystaline at the time of recovery in the 50s, thus making it unstable. You have been warned if you find an unrecovered mine.

I to have diving friend who recovered a horn from a &quot;Greenock&quot; mine and he broke the glass tube doing it!!! Discussing this with someone with more than a little knowledge about this sometime later, he was told

&quot;You know they filled these mines with anything available. So not all horns are acid filled, some had fulminate of mercury&quot;

&quot;What's fulminate of mercury?&quot;

&quot;Highly unstable!!!!&quot;

He was afterall ssac trained and thus allowances have to be made.


I can asure you that not all divers in Scotland are SSAC. Peter as you are ssac, how did you suffer a decompression problem? I listened to a talk by the ssac ndo some years ago, who assured us all that &quot;if we wore a kilt you would never get bent&quot;.

If you also read the ssac rule book, you will find that your ssac membership is automatically cancelled on dying or having a decompression incident on a dive. It should be somewhere among the rules for organising a camping trip to become a ssac 2nd rate diver.

BTW Peter, are you calling my BSAC lump hammer a poof?

[ROBERT BEALE]

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Quote[/b] ]Quote: from peter k on 1:25 am on Dec. 17, 2002
I like to see that parahandy, we can all list quals in our profiles, but it does sound like blowing a trumpet ie Yawn, Yawn. If we all get on with our own shit the world will be a nicer place. We can all list shit.  

<span =''> and very nice balls parahandy has,and oh say all of us...letssssssssss playyyyyyyyy ballllllllllll, i still agree though,never dive an out pipe.

[Mr T.]

Hey Rob,

Looks like you found the 'Caps Lock' key, huh? ;)

[StephM]

Hi Guys 'n' Gals,
Just catching up on all these posts. &nbsp;I'm a bit confused (not hard I know), 'Guest' refers to the mine on the Greenock. &nbsp;I take it you are refering to the wreck near the Cloch Lighthouse on the Clyde? &nbsp;I have heard elsewhere of there being a mine on it but am confused as to why, the wreck is of a clyde bucket dredger sank in 1907 (pre WW1), I have also heard reference to a heavy gun salvaged from the Beagle, again unsure why a small coastal steamer who ran from Glasgow to Belfast and sank in 1865 would need heavy gun. &nbsp;I have heard these Paddy's are wild but surely not that bad . &nbsp;Although judging by the stuffing they gave us Scots at the Rugby the other week it might not be such a bad idea. &nbsp; &nbsp;Can anyone shed any light on the wrecks??