New Sub off Berwick

[Ron Young]

Hi Guys,

They seem to be coming thick and fast lately, but another submarine, possibly an A class British sub has been found offshore from Berwick-on-Tweed in 73m. She appears to be a very small boat of around 30m, which limits what type she was, but by the discription she is most likely a very early British one, launched around 1905/06? However until the guys have made at least one more dive on her, we'll not really be sure.

Cheers Ron

[Mr T.]

Here ya go Ron, more of the same by the looks. RIP to both boat's compliments and here's hoping they get official designation as War Graves. From today's Telegraph:

U-boats with entombed crews found off Yorkshire
By Paul Stokes
(Filed: 01/09/2003)


Two German U-boats sunk during the First World War have been found with their crews entombed on board off the coast of northern England.

Divers have spent the past decade looking for the early submarines, known as "iron coffins" or "sisters of sorrow", which were lost between 1917 and 1918. Eight are known to have been sunk off the Yorkshire coast and until last summer all but two had been traced.

Andrew Jackson and Carl Racey made the latest discoveries 200ft down on the seabed off Scarborough.

First they found UB41, last sighted by the SS Melbourne on Oct 5 1917, but have been unable to tell if she had struck a mine or suffered an internal explosion.

UB75, which left Borkum for the Whitby area on Nov 29 1917, was found a mile away upright and intact with little evidence of damage. She sank four ships before coming to grief herself.

The wrecks were at first thought to be off Flamborough Head, but they were found 30 miles away. The precise locations are not being publicly disclosed.

The German Government is taking steps to have the two sites declared as official war graves for the 58 mariners on board. The National U-boat Archive, near Cuxhaven, Germany, was amazed to hear of the discoveries. Expert divers are able to examine the vessels for only 15 minutes at a time.

A documentary on the search can be seen in Inside Out on BBC1 in the Yorkshire and Lincolnshire region tonight at 7.30pm.


Further reading on this:

http://www.uboatarchive.net/

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/sml00001.htm

http://www.bbc.tv/insideo....s.shtml

[Paul Oliver]

Guys

Now we just need to sort out a couple off Dover, plenty to choose from and a few to find.

Regards

Paul

PS I currently have my shot line and Pea buoy tied to the UB109, sunk by remote control off Folkstone in 1918. Gun, perescope and bridge optics in place, stern blown off though.

[Diving Dude]

Paul, is the UB109 the one Andy and you are diving Sat?

I'm afraid I'll be with the oposition on Andys hardboat (with bacon sarnies apparantly) on Saturday.

[Jules]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Bren Tierney @ Sep. 01 2003,12:01)]Divers have spent the past decade looking for the early submarines, known as "iron coffins" or "sisters of sorrow", which were lost between 1917 and 1918. Eight are known to have been sunk off the Yorkshire coast and until last summer all but two had been traced.

Andrew Jackson and Carl Racey made the latest discoveries 200ft down on the seabed off Scarborough.

bren
These are the guys that i dive with in whitby, they co-own the Rib with Nick and another guy. I only get to go when they are doing "girly" shallow stuff though...
I didnt see the thing on ytv so waiting for someone to show me a video.
jules

[Paul Oliver]

Howard

No that is UC50 or something else off Dunganess, i may see you there, Andy has promissed me a butty or two.

I'm looking at what my club members want to do this weekend before deciding where we are going.

Regards

Paul

[Michael Lowrey]

Howard,

The U-boat wreck off Dungeness you're scheduled to dive with Andy might be UC 50 -- or it might not.

In a nutshell, HMS Zubian is generally credited with sinking the UC 50 off Dungeness on February 4, 1918. The problem is that we now know this attack was actually against UC 79 (which was damaged but not sunk) and UC 50 was already a week overdue at the time. The Royal Navy told the Germans postwar though that they had found and identified UC 50 but, very strangely, not how they had done so. The RN files have not been located yet and may no longer exist.

What Andy and company (including yourself) will be doing Saturday is helping Ron Young and I figure out what really happened. That includes determining how the U-boat may have been sunk and trying to identify her.

Best wishes,

Michael

[Ron Young]

Hi Michael & Guys,

My researcher friend Pam is at the PRO all this week, collecting masses of information and hopefully she might even come up with some new and unseen info by Saturday, keeping my fingers crossed  

Cheers Ron