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Old 22-04-08, 09:05 AM
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Lost Treasure Ships of the Northern Seas: A Guide and Gazetteer to 2000 Years of Shipwreck by Nigel Pickford.


If you read this book by the guy who researches treasure wrecks enabling treasure wrecks worth umpteen millions to be found all over the world, inc the "Edinburgh" Gold, "Nan King Pottery" from the Chinese Junk, And umpteen other large treasure finds, among the few he confirms in our country and of only two or three in the North sea.

Bonhomie Richard off Flambrough head, (No treasure) but worth millions to the Americans as a symbol of their sea power.

Another I think in the Firth of Forth.

And the Somalia.

He is no mug and will have access to all kinds of information.
Like I said lead soldiers, humbug. They might have chucked a layer on top of the precious metal to fool everybody.

How can you put so many tons of lead soldiers in containers, if any of you have handled them, as they were the only kind available when I was a kid, (No plastic) only Bakelite, they were quite delicate and could be squashed easy, the top 2 or 3 inches of soldiers on the top might survive, but the rest would be just squashed flat.

Your being fooled by English subversion and propaganda even now!.

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Lost Treasure Ships of the Northern Seas: A Guide and Gazetteer to 2000 Years of Shipwreck by Nigel Pickford.


If you read this book by the guy who researches treasure wrecks enabling treasure wrecks worth umpteen millions to be found all over the world, inc the "Edinburgh" Gold, "Nan King Pottery" from the Chinese Junk, And umpteen other large treasure finds, among the few he confirms in our country and of only two or three in the North sea.

Bonhomie Richard off Flambrough head, (No treasure) but worth millions to the Americans as a symbol of their sea power.

Another I think in the Firth of Forth.

And the Somalia.

He is no mug and will have access to all kinds of information.
Like I said lead soldiers, humbug. They might have chucked a layer on top of the precious metal to fool everybody.

How can you put so many tons of lead soldiers in containers, if any of you have handled them, as they were the only kind available when I was a kid, (No plastic) only Bakelite, they were quite delicate and could be squashed easy, the top 2 or 3 inches of soldiers on the top might survive, but the rest would be just squashed flat.

Your being fooled by English subversion and propaganda even now!.

Trust me i'm a diver.
OK, so the rumours may not have much substance, but we can all dream of finding something worthwile can't we!

Like the guy from Craster the other year who managed to lift a cannon from one of the sites and he placed it in his front garden. Certain people from the authorities got to know about it, paid him a visit and within a week it was back where it was found. He won't do that again.
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Well, what can I say about the toy lead soldiers, they were in the cargo manifest and I've seen quite a few of them, albeit mostly rather broken; however they were not just dumped altogether, but were shipped in their own small boxes.

The guy from Craster is actually called Kenneth Clayton, but he lives in Chester-le-Street, County Durham. After winning a lot of money from a work accident on the rigs, he bought the big white house opposite the chip shop in Beadnell as a holiday home. He thought that because he had money he could just go out to Gun Rocks and destroy the cannon site for his own amusement, that is, until the Reciever of Wreck discovered. However unstead of taking the cannon back to Gun Rocks where it belonged, he just dumped it in Beadnell Bay. He eventually sold the house in Beadnell because not many local people or divers would speak to him.

You are right about Stan too, he has let an awful lot of people walk all over him. He is a smashing guy, but was far too trusting

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Well, what can I say about the toy lead soldiers, they were in the cargo manifest and I've seen quite a few of them, albeit mostly rather broken; however they were not just dumped altogether, but were shipped in their own small boxes.

The guy from Craster is actually called Kenneth Clayton, but he lives in Chester-le-Street, County Durham. After winning a lot of money from a work accident on the rigs, he bought the big white house opposite the chip shop in Beadnell as a holiday home. He thought that because he had money he could just go out to Gun Rocks and destroy the cannon site for his own amusement, that is, until the Reciever of Wreck discovered. However unstead of taking the cannon back to Gun Rocks where it belonged, he just dumped it in Beadnell Bay. He eventually sold the house in Beadnell because not many local people or divers would speak to him.

You are right about Stan too, he has let an awful lot of people walk all over him. He is a smashing guy, but was far too trusting

Cheers Ron
There you go then. I guess there's truth in most of what has been mentioned on this thread and some hype.

Stan is a great guy and cooks a mean breakfast and I think everyone who has ever met the guy likes his stories. His son Lee is a top guy also.

I know the house opposite the chippy in Beadnell, but never knew the guy who owned it, but I guess he got what he deserved.

All makes for an interesting story.
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A simple question has turned into a very interesting thread, thanks for all the info, much obliged (who needs google)

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Interesting stuff, our club (Redcar 43) are diving it this Sunday. Better remember to take my goodie/lifting bags for all the treasure

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Interesting stuff, our club (Redcar 43) are diving it this Sunday. Better remember to take my goodie/lifting bags for all the treasure
Any chance of a quick report on the dive?

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Interesting stuff, our club (Redcar 43) are diving it this Sunday. Better remember to take my goodie/lifting bags for all the treasure
Is your club the one KevW off te boards belongs to?
Hope the weather keeps OK.
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Is your club the one KevW off te boards belongs to?
Hope the weather keeps OK.
Yes TLS is our Diving Officer, although we're having a well deserved break from him at the minute as he's in Oz

Only kidding Kev!

I'll put a post up after the weekend on whether the diving was any good.

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