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Hi guys,

I couldn't find a correct forum for this post, so I hope it's ok here (as many seem to frequent this part).

Just to introduce my diving experience to give a bit of background:

I'm an AOW diver with approx 55 dives and have done all of my diving abroad, including some cold water in New Zealand. I am doing my dry suit speciality in 2 weeks to give me my first taste of UK diving.

Now, here's the question: should I join a club?!

I am 23, and living in London, in my first job, and £300 odd quid is a lot of money.

On the one hand, I am keen to get more diving under my belt (I love it!) and to train further, do Sports Diver training and other stuff as well. It'd be great to socialise with like minded people and to do diving for a minimal amount of money (as joining fee covers diving, as I understand it, apart from entry fees, contributions to travel etc).

On the other hand, I am busy quite a few weekends and reckon I'd only be free for maximum 3 weekends diving this Summer (possibly 2). The clubs only seem to have trips planned for the Summer.

So, it just seems to me that £300 is a lot of money for 3 weekend trips.

Basically, I just wanna open up some debate... What you think of my situation, advice etc. I can't afford any gear (certainly not dry suit, although some clubs in London say they have dry suits for hire).

I know only I can make the decision, but I need help. Opinions etc.

I'd love to join a club and get lots more diving under my belt, but just don't know if it's worth it.

Cheers

Jon
 

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Hi Jon,

a warm welcome to YD, joining the right club has benefits access to gear and cheaper training etc, but the downside is that some may not be doing the dives you want to do or not train people regularly.

My advice would be to visit some of the local clubs and see what they have to offer and decide from there.

There is nothing to stop you joining YD trips although it could be more difficult with you not having your own equipment.

HTH

Safe diving,
Steve
 

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Welcmoe to YD Jon,

As has been said, you could join trips on here.

In the South you cold get way with a Semi dry but to be honest there are second hand suits on the market which might suit your pocket better in the short term. Check out the second hand section on this and other forums. (My best advice on drysuits, would be to try before you buy - don't buy a Drysuit via the post! Check the zip personally for any damage)

As Steve said, you should look around before making any decision on any club. Clubs can be great for training, contacts, new mates, trips and equipment to borrow, but you have to research your clubs properly, or you could end up paynig money to a club which is of no use to you. You could get away with just getting DAN Insurance and diving with local YD members.

In the mean time strole around this site. Use the sections to bone up on kit, makers, training, etc... If you have any questions the search can't answer post in the relevent section. You'll receive lots of options.

ATB

Dave C
 

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(as joining fee covers diving, as I understand it, apart from entry fees, contributions to travel etc).
I am confused...what other costs are there after Entry fees, travel etc have been paid? An air fill!

On the other hand, I am busy quite a few weekends and reckon I'd only be free for maximum 3 weekends diving this Summer (possibly 2).
You get out of a club what you put in. It sounds like you can not put much in. Sounds like my mate paying £50 a month for a gym membership he is too busy to use.

Basically, I just wanna open up some debate... What you think of my situation, advice etc. I can't afford any gear (certainly not dry suit, although some clubs in London say they have dry suits for hire).
Well you can almost buy a drysuit for 300 knicker.

I'd love to join a club and get lots more diving under my belt, but just don't know if it's worth it.
How do you imagine getting more dives under your belt without making the time to do it?

Some clubs have social memberships which are way cheaper than the diving membership. These are ideal for people that want to talk about diving but can not get around to doing it. (that is not meant to be derrogatory by the way). Why not join the social side and put the best part of £300 toward buying your own kit?

Get your priorities right. To go diving you need kit and you need time. When you have those it will be time to look for a club to dive with.

HTH
 

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Failing that, you could always convert to PADI and do the training in your own time (cue massive debate on who is best) tailored to what you what to do, and when, and join/visit a few 'private' clubs rather than wazzing Xpounds up the wall on a club you will not use and put that towards kit.

HTH

Ben

Oh yeah, welcome aboard too.
 

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Time and money

Given that most trips-club or otherwise will require your own kit I would start there. You will need to find £1500-£2000 to purchase your own kit-drysuit, bcd, regs, weight, fins mask, watch/computer, cylinders etc.

UK dive trips using YD typically cost £35-45 per boat space, + gas say £6 if using air, and travel, say £20 for fuel. So you need to find £70 per dive day in the UK.

As said earlier, club diving is about putting back in what you receive-organising accommodation, gas fills, etc. It is a team effort, not a cost saving exercise. Club diving is great but yo have to reaaly use to obtain the benefits.

Diving is an expensive hobby/obsession ;). For me I have a minimum 2.5 hour journey to reach the sea. The more diving I do, the more I enjoy. Two or three weekends over a summer would not be worth the £2k investment.

Kit hire becomes quite expensive-my local LDS charges £10 per day for each item of kit, so your hire cost could be £50, on top of your other diving costs. Just a thought.
 

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I think, from reading the above that I landed quite lucky with my kit then to be fair. OK it was all ex-school kit but was all serviced and in good nick so this may be an option. Regs may be one thing to look at more than the rst of it though, have found once I was happier with them that everything else seemed less of an issue, well, if you can breathe, jobs a goodun!!
 

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Not all clubs cost that much. Lets take someone who comes to us with nothing but a cert card and wants to come diving wit h us....
Club membership fee £20 per year
Dive fees - average £35-£40 per day
Kit hire (from the LDS) £37.50 per day /£60 for a weekend.

We also have access to a pool two evenings a week (I think there may be a charge of a couple of quid). we don't do any training, but we do support new divers, etc and have many PADI instructors & DM's who are members & go diving with the club regularly.

No, we don't have our own boat, but we are able to charter boats in lots of different palces up & down the uk coast. It is very rare that there are spaces unfilled on the club dives.
:)
 
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