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Anyone know if Debelius' Atlantic fish guide is as good as his Red Sea one?

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The Atlantic/Med book is IMHO an excellent reference, very good pictures and useful descriptions. Not sure how this compares to the Red Sea one as I've not seen it.

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Not seen the Atlantic one but have used several others. Most are excellent, one of them I remember being a bit too incomplete (not sure which one!) If only he would bring out a "World" or "Tropical" guide I would buy it in a flash.
 

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<font color='#0000FF'>The Atlancic/Mrd fish guide is really good for both photos and stories. Haven't seen the Red Sea book but I would buy it before going there based on the Atlantic one.

BUT he keeps talking about "fishes" rather than "fish". Just a bugbear of mine.
 

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I haven't read that one but all his other books are excellent, in my opinion. Regarding fish or fishes as the plural form, Oxford accepts both. I think the two forms are usually used in slightly different contexts. Example: There are lots of fish in the sea but only a few of them are scorpionfishes (to use an example that is topical on these boards just now). I seem to remember D uses "fishes" in this way, e.g talking about butterfly fishes, angel fishes, trigger fishes etc etc. I can't see that this is incorrect.
 

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I'm not 100% but I though fish was the plural for one species and when referring to multiple species it is fishes? Where are the English teachers?
 

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Quote[/b] (spike jackson @ Dec. 18 2003,11:50)]I'm not 100% but I though fish was the plural for one species and when referring to multiple species it is fishes?
I think that's what I was tying to say, in a round-about way.
 

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<font color='#0000FF'>Collins English dictionary: n/pl fish or fishes. From the dictionary it means either one is correct. Personally I would agree with John & Spike.
Is the Debelius books the hardcover ones more diver orientated? (OK, I'm being as clear as mud). If so the Atlantic one has a blue cover written by a German, if it is this one then I highly reccomend it, at least it is the most friendly fish ID book I've seen and has good descriptions.
 

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I've only ever used "fishes" in a pejorative way as in "he/she is swimming with the fishes" circa "Lucca Brazzi is swimming with the fishes - The Godfather I"

For full effect, use a New Joisey accent...
 

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Quote[/b] (Chris Guimaraens @ Dec. 18 2003,16:41)]Collins English dictionary: n/pl fish or fishes. From the dictionary it means either one is correct. Personally I would agree with John & Spike.
Is the Debelius books the hardcover ones more diver orientated? (OK, I'm being as clear as mud). If so the Atlantic one has a blue cover written by a German, if it is this one then I highly reccomend it, at least it is the most friendly fish ID book I've seen and has good descriptions.
Not sure what you're on about, Chris - as clear as mud, as you say
- but Helmut Debelius IS German.
 

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<font color='#FF0000'>ere I thought this geezer was a musician, wos e doin writin books on fishis.
 

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Quote[/b] (John Gulliver @ Dec. 18 2003,22:03)]
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Quote[/b] (Chris Guimaraens @ Dec. 18 2003,16:41)]Collins English dictionary: n/pl fish or fishes. From the dictionary it means either one is correct. Personally I would agree with John & Spike.
Is the Debelius books the hardcover ones more diver orientated? (OK, I'm being as clear as mud). If so the Atlantic one has a blue cover written by a German, if it is this one then I highly reccomend it, at least it is the most friendly fish ID book I've seen and has good descriptions.
Not sure what you're on about, Chris - as clear as mud, as you say
- but Helmut Debelius IS German.
<font color='#0000FF'>Let me try this again - the plural for fish is 'fish' but can also be 'fishes'. According to the dictionary either one is correct. Hope this is as clear as gin  


As for Debelius as a rock star, well I havn't heard of that before. I wish he continued with his books, they are the best best fish guides I've seen.
 

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I think the reference was probably to the FINNISH composer Jan SIbelius. Not sure if it was a bad joke or just ignorance.  
 
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