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I am a PADI diver and I am going to need a medical for diving in Malta, how do I go about getting a medical?
do I just tell the diving doctor that I want a medical and they'll have a standard diving medical?
Also this is the interesting bit (fortunately not for me) does anyone know of a diving doctor who is also a heart specialist?
as near to Reading as possible would be nice.

Thanks for any help

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See the post: BSAC medical referees at top of dive medicine forum for link to list of UK-wide medrefs (NB they're not only for BSAC divers )
 

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This guy is a Cardiologist as well as the SSAC Doc;

Dr S K Glen, Striling Royal Infirmary, Livilands, Stirling, FK8 2AU
Tel: 0131 537 1000 (s) Fax: 0131 553 2209 Email: [email protected]

I know he's not in Reading but he's the only one I know that does hearts as well

HTH
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have a look at e-med, they will deal with general queries over email and refer you to a doctor who can sign you off.

The Medical in Malta takes a couple of minutes and costs a few quid, but if you have something that raises a question or will show up in the self-decl form then you would be safest to talk to a doc before you go. But emed may be able to give you an email/letter to bring with you to get around the issue.

I believe you may just need a letter rather than full certification (if it is one specific issue)

Hope this helps

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where do I get a PADI medical form from? I assume it isn't just a self cert with a covering letter.

A medical In malta could be fun as I have no feeling in my legs and they don't quite index properly (however if I didnt tell them they'd never know).

The heart thing could be far more interesting.
I can just see them saying "oh yes I need a diving medical, and by the way I have a hole in my heart" (a VSD if anyone knows about this sort of thing).

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if you search for PADI medical questionnaire you should find one, I think they are downloadable from padi and emed websites.

Did you not have to do the self declaration etc for your open water?
 

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<font color='#810541'>Sorry Simon, didn't see the bit about your heart. I don't think your GP would do it for you, I think you will have to see a specialist, unless your GP can state that your heart condition is not a contra indication to diving.

Good luck.
 

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Fortunately the question about the heart is not for me, it's for a friend who wants to take up diving.
As for the no feeling in the legs there is nothing on a PADI self cert which has to be ticked the wrong way for it.
and when i consulted my neurologist he said that there was no problem with diving. (and yes I did ask him if he understood what diving did to your body).

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<font color='#000080'>I am an asthmatic and have to get a proper medical done.  I went through my medical referee and had no problems at all.

As for the hole in the heart, it can let bubbles travel from one side to the other without getting trapped in the lungs as normal.  This can lead to a CNS bend.  There are computers that allow for that kind of thing out there, but they are so conservative its unreal.

Maybe speak to the DDRC and see what they have to say.
 

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I've got a PFO test at the start of Febuary


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<font color='#000080'>PFO or patent foramen ovale is a hole that has been there since birth.  It is normally symptomless, but can be linked with migraines and strokes when you get old.
The test isnt nice.  It involes them putting an ultrasound probe down your throat to scan the heart (your ribs are in the way from the outside), and them injecting saline into the heart and monitoring any changes in density from one side to the other via a hole.

I know a bit about them as it was possible i had one as i had two possible (unproved as not seen by a diving doc) minor bends that were undeserved.  However the good old NHS wont do it till i really bugger myself!
 

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Peter,
Sorry to hear you need a PFO test.

Apparently, a VSD is not as bad as a PFO. Unless I've been given duff info, the PFO lets the blood that hasn't been through the lungs cross into the blood that has, where as a VSD lets blood cross the heart in the other direction, ie from oxygenated to non oxygenated.

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I know all about them. I've read up a lot, even into the fixing of them, on t'web.

Porg-They doppler sound them from the outside, not inside.

Anyone know how and what a pulmonary function test is as that's maybe going to get done as well at a later date?
 

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Peter,
AFAIK a pulmonary function test is a treadmill test, heavy exercise combined with some heart defects will cause fluid build up in the lungs. - not the best thing to happen to a diver!

Porg,
Cheers for that. I have had the word back from the DDRC on the VSD (acronym soup anyone?) and I quote :-

Small ventricular septal defects, in individuals with otherwise normal hearts, only shunt left-to-right and have little haemodynamic effects. Asymptomatic individuals with a small ventricular septal defect can be allowed to dive without restriction.

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<font color='#000080'>i love the DDRC, they got me narked at the dive show a couple of years ago - oh yeah and they gave me loads of advice when i got a dodgy post dive rash when my buddy decided to go whoooooosh to the surface.
 

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I've found out where to get my medical from.
My next question is where can I get the forms for my doctor to fill in (apparently I need to get him to do a medical and then he'll refer me if necessary).
On the BSAC website is the old forms (will they accept these in Malta? will they accept these if I'm a PADI Diver?)
On the UKSDMC Website They only have a self-cert with a space for a doctor to sign at the botom. Which do I use?

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Simon, I'm pretty sure any of the forms would be accepted as they are well used to BSAC divers coming over. The medical form the Matese Docor gave me was the PADI one. I found a link to a copy here.......
www.sandals.com/general/scuba-medical.pdf

If you don't have to say yes to any of the questions on the first page then most likely the Matese Doctor will just hold a stethoscope to your chest, listen to you heart and breathing and then do a glucose test on your Urine. Its not a strenuous test.

Hope this helps

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Conor,
at the moment I would have to answer one of the self cert questions  the wrong way, I'm on proton pump inhibitors, however it's not so bad that I wouldnt give them up in order to go diving.

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It just means that its best to get the form signed off by a doctor before you travel rather than risk a medical with a nervous or unsure medic in Malata who may not want to take responsibility for sugning without having access to records etc.....BTW tickets booked....I'm on my way
 
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