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Off to Red Sea in Jan (Heh Heh). (Will think of you all whilst you digging your cars out of the snow. Except gav and fi who are on the other side of the world, grr.)

Never taken dive kit on a plane before. What are the do's and donts re:
Knives
Torches and batteries
Weight allowance management.
Security and safety in transit.

What sort of wet suit will i need in the red sea in jan. Where the cheapest place to buy them at the moment if I cant blag, borrow, steal or find a second hand one??
 

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Check with the airline first about knives - they may be touchy about them even if they are in the hold. You will not be allowed to take a knife or anything similar on as hand baggage.

I would keep a dive computer as hand baggage since it's small and light yet valuable. Anything else goes in the hold. I wouldn't have the luggage with your dive gear in it flagged as dive gear - might attract thieves. Just use normal luggage or if you have one of those specialist dive gear bage make sure it doesn't advertise the fact.

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Ben, post a full report of your diving when you get back.  You sure you don't need a frog to go with you?  Hmm?  Dive safely out there, take care.  :froggy:
 

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Hey Ben,

Good news on the trip mate - Enjoy!

OK, here's what I do when taking my kit abroad. It's called 'circling your rig' and makes it secure and protected whilst in transit.

You will need a good quality dive bag - one with zips that allow a small padlock to be placed through the 'eye' of the zip. This will stop any inqusitive-wallahs/thieves/bored ground staff having a swatch or having it away lively with any of your kit. I can recommend Scubapro (mine) or Mares (Fi's).

Now, to circling your rig:

* place your BCD flat on the deck - rearside down - and open it out - loosen (although don't un-do) all clips and fastenings.

* take your fins and place your mask into one of the foot-wells, ditto any tank-bangers you might have. Then place the fins flat (side-by-side) onto the backplate of you BC(foot-entry points towards the shoulders of your BC).

* then take your Regs (some folk insist on taking their regs into the cabin with them as hand-luggage; in all my years of travelling with kit, I never have and have never suffered a loss or breakage of any piece of kit) and 'circle' them.

To do this, first take the 1st stage in your hand and hold it out from your chest and allow all hoses (I, like most, will have 5 hoses) to dangle to their fullest extent. Then, taking your other hand, grab one half of the two sets of hoses - as they dangle, you will either have two hoses off one side of the 1st stage and three off the other - and then grab the other set and bring them together. Now, holding them, let the 1st stage drop free. You should now have something resembling a circle.

Place the 1st stage in a gap between the two fins and arrange the hoses and regs on top of the fins. Now toss in your knife (never take your knife as hand/carry-on luggage!!) and all your dive kit (minus weights and tanks) is ready for the off. Simply close the BC and tighten and fasten all the clips and fastenings you loosened earlier and hey presto - one 'circled' rig.

All your kit should now be neatly packed ON TOP of your rig - suits, boots etc. as this acts as extra safety padding and protection. I never travel with a torch and always hire one in-country as required - it's just more to get smashed and it's weight I don't need. Just a personal choice.

Hope this helps, you should be able to square a kit bag like this in less a minute.

Cheers,
 

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I concur with bren it's exactly what I do. The BCD acts as protection for all your gear. I tend to keep computers with me - changing the time gives me sommat to do.

I've never had a problem with knives - just leave them in you hold luggage. One final thing make up a small kit of dive savers to take with ya'

O rings, mark strap, bungy, fin strap - spare buckle. It should weigh next to f-all but could prove more then useful. Also if you're taking DIN regs tell the boat in advance you want DIN-convertable tanks most in Sharm have DIN but it's best to ensure they know what you want.
 

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Sensible advice gentleman.

I was planning on strapping my shark killer knife to my claf, just for the crack.
 

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I would never strap anything to my "claf" it might be chilly!!!!
 

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I had problems with some tools this summer. The 10mm spanner was a no no, had to sling it into the bin with the nail files;(what was I going to do, unbolt a wing or something)
Security :martian: missed the folding screwdrivers and a few nasties I had forgotten was lurking in the bottom of the reg bag.

They were interested in the computer so much licking of fingers to prove it was as it claimed.
 

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:flame:

Oh, regs will get a very close inspection and wipe with the ol' semtex detector cloth so best to have them seperate in a carrier bag or on top of handluggage....
 

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Would the semtex detector knacker the O2 cleaning?

Could be grounds for legal action!
 

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Went to Sharm a couple of months ago, i used cable ties on all of the zips on my dive bag and took my computer as hand luggage. I left my regs in the bag but i have since bought some shiney new ones, not sure where i'll put those next time!

Have a good trip

Paul
 

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Would the semtex detector knacker the O2 cleaning?
<span =''>Nope, it's just a cloth rubbed over... Regs came back nicely polished, free of charge - though I don't think they would be too impressed if I asked them to do my trainers too.... :lol2:
 

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Bren has described exactly what I do. I've done about 40 trips abroad and have always packed my regs in my dive bag. They won't come to any harm if you do it the ways Bren suggests. I notice nobody has answered your question about suits. Many people will tell you you'll be fine in a 5 mm drysuit. I disagree. The temperature in the Red Sea in January is only a degree or two higher than here in northern Europe in the summer. Would you dive in a 5 mm wetsuit at home? Take at least a 7 mm semidry. Personally, I always dive in a drysuit in the Red Sea in the winter, as do most of the diveguides I've met. I had to rent a 5 mm wetsuit last January in Hurghada as my drysuit sprang a leak. I wasn't warm enough. Although the temperature in Egypt in January is often around 25 degrees in the middle of the day, there is often a chilly wind and you'll freeze your £&#36?&?*! off standing on the deck of the boat and getting out of a wetsuit. Take your drysuit and you'll be the envy of everyone else on the boat.

(Edited by John Gulliver at 10:49 am on Dec. 6, 2002)
 

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Hmm interesting. Ive got a ndiver neoprene so I guess i could wwear it without any thermals. Would add to the weight allowance though. Could I take it as hand luggage??
 

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You won't need much under a neoprene suit, just a light tracksuit or similar. Weight is always a problem when travelling with dive gear but you should be able to take your drysuit without exceeding you allowance. Pack all your clothes in your hand luggage. Take the minimum – you can buy more clothes for almost nothing in Egypt if you run out of clean T-shirts or underwear.  Take a warm sweater or fleece for the mornings and evenings, though (wear it on the plane).
 

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Sorry Ben,

Gully's right, I did omit to reply on the 'which suit to take?' question.

I've only ever dived in the Red Sea (Namma Bay, Sharm both times) twice - Feb and November, so both technically 'winter' as far any of the other tropical resorts I've done.

The 1st time we used two-piece wet suits (rented from the dive centre) and the 2nd we took our semi-dries (7mm). Now my O'3 semi also has a 3mm shortie undersuit also which came in useful in South Africa, although we didn't use it (the undersuit) in Sharm.

I'd have to concur with Gully, take a semi if you can buy/beg/steal/borrow one as a minimum in the winter Red Sea. You will find that if you're doing dives on a single 10 or 12L allie (you can also rent 15 L) you should be getting - assuming you're not going deeper than 30 metres -  dives of between 40 mins and an hour. And an hour in a normal wetsuit will see you beginning to feel the cold at this time of year. Failing that, take yer dry-bag and you'll be toasty warm mate. Oh, and remember to take a pair of booties.

If you're planning on taking your Pony, remember to empty it completely and put it in as checked/hold luggage. The check in staff will want to be completely happy that it is what you say it is and that it is completely empty. They will probably ask you to demonstrate this fact also. You won't need gloves.

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You can take your pony on the plane!!!!

Didnt know that.

Can you generally hire them if neccisary, if you take the adapter.
 
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