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Q: Is it balanced? 13-May-07

A: no this is a standard valve, and personally i would never use the balanced version unless you want a one way ticket to the emergency room for urinary tract infection. normally what we do is leave the full length of hose on the p-valve this allows for enough pressure from within the suit to assist with urinating, quite frankly i have used both and i see very little difference in performance, and allot more convenient to use the unbalanced version over the balanced(old Style that is)
This is the response to a question on ebay regarding a Halcyon P Valve (200106401789)

Is this really an issue with balanced p valves or is it simply scaremongering by the seller to get people to buy his product?

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This is the response to a question on ebay regarding a Halcyon P Valve (200106401789)

Is this really an issue with balanced p valves or is it simply scaremongering by the seller to get people to buy his product?

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If you don't clean them from time to time, I believe they can lead to very painful infections.

But a simple rinse through each weekend, plus the occasional sterilisation has worked wonders for me. So far.

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If you don't clean them from time to time, I believe they can lead to very painful infections.

But a simple rinse through each weekend, plus the occasional sterilisation has worked wonders for me. So far.

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Mark
I think this is just plain wrong - I have used both balanced and unbalanced P valves for quite a long time. I started with unbalanced and now use balanced.

Either type can end up with urine left in the tube, you just need to make sure the tube is empty when you put the dry suit away, otherwise you can get a reversal and of course the nasty old stuff can cause problems.

Simply blowing down the tube will clear out the urine, I have never had any infections and been doing this for a long time.
 

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Urinary tract infections can also be caused by pissing in your wetsuit whilst diving in tropical water (and presumably other) that is loaded with nutrients. You have been warned. Of course, there are more fun ways to catch infections like this too...
 

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Simply blowing down the tube will clear out the urine, I have never had any infections and been doing this for a long time.
Eeewwwwww!!!


Urinary tract infections can also be caused by pissing in your wetsuit whilst diving in tropical water (and presumably other) that is loaded with nutrients. You have been warned. Of course, there are more fun ways to catch infections like this too...
I had wondered about that, I am contemplating fitting a p-valve to my semi dry, for hygene purposes and to reduce the smell :eek:mg: ;)
 

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Urinary tract infections can also be caused by pissing in your wetsuit whilst diving in tropical water (and presumably other) that is loaded with nutrients. You have been warned. Of course, there are more fun ways to catch infections like this too...
I can vouch for that, now never go on a liveaboard without a cystitis remedy! :embarassed: Now always rinse suit after every dive and no problems :angel:

(it's only a 3mm shortie, so easy to 'go' whilst holding one of the suit legs open! And before anybody asks, no, it can't wait until end of dive! It's the consequences of drinking at least 3 litres a day!)
 

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Simply blowing down the tube will clear out the urine, I have never had any infections and been doing this for a long time.
Right - that has cleared up all doubt. I will stick to shorter dives or, in desperation - nappies! Just to be absolutely clear - you're blowing the urine out of the tube with your mouth???!!!
 

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I've got an unused She-Wee you can have. You could attach it with some form of elastic truss. And, according to the instructions, it's dishwasher-safe :)
 

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I've got an unused She-Wee you can have. You could attach it with some form of elastic truss. And, according to the instructions, it's dishwasher-safe :)
If you put it on the wrong way round can you poo throught it?

If so please can you send it to Andy Kerslake as I want to see him blow that out after. :)
 

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If you put it on the wrong way round can you poo throught it?

If so please can you send it to Andy Kerslake as I want to see him blow that out after. :)
You could in theory, but it'd have to be a tad loose as the funnel isn't very wide. One solid poo would clog it.
 

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Right - that has cleared up all doubt. I will stick to shorter dives or, in desperation - nappies! Just to be absolutely clear - you're blowing the urine out of the tube with your mouth???!!!
you need a picture -b ut simply hold end of tube in slightly clenched fist and blow at other end - no contact etc. As for the female options these are not too pleasant, apart from nappies which can leak they all involve shaving, elastic, sticky stuff - not very easy, of course for some self cathertisation is used but you have to be very brave or daft :)
 

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No, he is wrong. And I can’t see where he got that idea.
The balance valve doesn’t work with pressure. I just stops a vacuum built-up.
Nothing more.
A hose filled with liquid will react in the same way regardless 10cm or 10m. (hydraulic works like what). How that should effect it, is nonsens.

If any particals (e.g. sand from sock?!) goes into hose if it’s not pluged it can stop the oneway/check valve in closed position and or the balance valve in open position.
If the valve and it’s system is cleaned there are no “offical problems” with a small blow/suck check before attaching al other parts.

Make a mild mix of water and clorine . Squize gently.

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What is uncomfortable with an unbalanced P-valve (at least for me) is condom-sqeeze, whereby the airspace at the end of the condom shrinks on descent, and ...

A quick twist of the outlet nut to let a bit of water into the tubing and equalise the pressure soon solves this one!
 
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