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It doesn’t matter if you call it salt rash, hangman’s neck, seal rash or salt irritation. It all means the same thing. Your skin is being irritated by a combination of salt water (or sometimes even fresh water) and your neck seal..

As well as being a very keen and active scuba diver, in my day job I run a company that specialises in skincare. Our product Derma Shield will solve salt rash for over 80% of divers who suffer with this problem. A bold statement I know and what’s more I’ll back it up with a 90 day money back guarantee.

Go to this page on our site to read more about salt rash If you like what you read then visit our online shop and, when you get to the checkout page, use this code “YORDIV” to get an additional 15% discount of our web prices.

Best wishes

Peter
 

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Thanks Peter, I'll be going over there shortly. I use the product and think it is great.

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Salt is one problem but the main cause is a new neck seal. The mould release they use on the latex moulds is an irritant until it wears off. That's why eventually you don't get hangmans neck- the release has all gone.

Alternatively instead of spending lots on Dermashield then forgetting to put it on, change to a neoprene seal. You'll never look back. Mainly cos you can't turn your head.
 

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I'm gonna mail Nickb....he'll be able to refill his dive box with tinctures and ointments.
 

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Alternatively instead of spending lots on Dermashield then forgetting to put it on, change to a neoprene seal. You'll never look back. Mainly cos you can't turn your head.
Got to agree I used to get the hangmans diving rash after every single trip and tbh it gets painful!! I switched to a neoprene at the start of this year and it's a revelation best £60 I ever spent! (Not disputing the lotion might work too though.)
 

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Or use DEB barrier cream, stops the rash is anti-baterilogical,
and is even anti-Weils disease for the quarry jocks :teeth:

If you buy a tub, it works out at way less than 50p a pot.
 

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OK i'll try it seeing as I always have a rancid red neck for a day or so after a days drysuit diving.
The discount covered the postage, thanks :)
 

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For someone who can't use medicated this and antibacterial that, thumbsup to Dermashield for also keeping irritants off my eczema (salt, neoprene, latex and pollen!).
 

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Or use DEB barrier cream, stops the rash is anti-baterilogical,
and is even anti-Weils disease for the quarry jocks :teeth:

If you buy a tub, it works out at way less than 50p a pot.
Deb are a good company and do have some very good skin cleansers, emollients and hard surface cleaners. However I don’t think you’ll find that they have any anti bacterial barrier cream. I also doubt that they will claim their barrier products are protection against Weil’s disease.
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Deb are a good company and do have some very good skin cleansers, emollients and hard surface cleaners. However I don’t think you’ll find that they have any anti bacterial barrier cream. I also doubt that they will claim their barrier products are protection against Weil’s disease.
Peter
Deb DPW506 Proteks Wet Pre-Work Protective Cream 2.5kg Protex Wet £14.54



For working with water based ('wet') substances. Contains Silicone - a good water repellent, making it ideal for wet work situations.
Germicidal - effective against Weils disease.
Unperfumed - non-tainting & can be used in any environment.
Ointment Based - easily applied & quickly rubbed in leaving no greasy after-feel.
 

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What would worry me with the DEB product http://www.debgroup.com/sites/default/files/data-sheet-files/uk/proteks-wet-bulk-msds.pdf is that it contains vaseline (petrolatum, white soft paraffin) and liquid paraffin. Admittedly this might be a tiny amount and it is clearly emulsified to form an ointment-like base, but I'd still have concerns with latex seals. That said, if rubbed in and allowed to absorb, then there would be very little on the surface anyway.

I'd be interested to see some data on efficacy vs. weils disease and other microorganisms. That said, killing microbes on the skin surface is easy, you could claim that soap will kill pretty much any pathogen - which it will on a surface.
 

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We've used DEB dry and wet for neck seals for over 15 years at least and
it's had no adverse affects whatsoever with neck seals.

As for the claim, well its a bit more than just advertising, this is an HSE
product for those working in the industry where Weils is prevelent,
so reckon its a tad more than just a maybe that it would work.
 

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As for the claim, well its a bit more than just advertising, this is an HSE
product for those working in the industry where Weils is prevelent,
so reckon its a tad more than just a maybe that it would work.
Terry

Bang goes an early night home. This has just made my business life very interesting!

There is something here that doesn't make sense to me at the moment. I'm not saying you're wrong or that there is a mistake in the information you've presented but I've got our microbiologists looking at this. I'll post again when I have all the info.

In the meantime..... why don't you try DS and compare it? :angel:

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For someone who can't use medicated this and antibacterial that, thumbsup to Dermashield for also keeping irritants off my eczema (salt, neoprene, latex and pollen!).
Same here, my hands can get real bad, to the point of the skin splitting, usually after dealing with salt water soaked ropes, a bit crappy for a diver and skipper....

I have tried just about every available cream, ointment and barrier, Derma shield works a treat for me... most others failed miserably

Thanks for the discount code Peter...
 

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As usual Terry you get all defensive without actually reading my post.

On the vaseline point, you'll see that I postulate that rubbing the product in well, as you would do with a barrier cream, would mean there would be little left on the surface to affect seals. Your experience bears this out.

On the weils point, I said I would like to see some data. That is all. I deal with this kind of product every day in my working life, and I have seen all kind of claims made, sometimes with and sometimes without supporting data. HSE use or otherwise, I would be interested to see how those claims were supported with trials. For example, I assessed a product not dissimilar to this one where the antibacterial claim was made because it contained a well known antibacterial agent, despite the fact that it was at a concentration about 0.001% of the lowest recomended effective concentration.

I'm not saying it doesn't work, just that I have seen claims like this made before and before I believe them I'd like to see the evidence.
 

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Lol if you think that was being defensive :wink:

I dont really care TBH, we've used it for 15 years and it does
the job fine at a cost way under DS.

If you think DEB are telling porkies then I suggest you take that up
with them, it is there blurb after all.
 
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