Yes thanks for that reminder, if in doubt dont do it! As my buddy says, "there will be other days to go diving" .[b said:Quote[/b] (kinetic @ Oct. 03 2003,21:25)]peterk...thanks for the reminder of mortality...and we should all remember that when we go diving there are people up top we love and who love us.....
<font color='#0000FF'>I don't buy that. Naturally we have all done stupid things in one time or another but this was particulary stupid. If they had redundant air supply and was well thought out and planned this dive than I think we could all relate to this in one way or another. They just seem to get their kit and go.[b said:Quote[/b] (Jason Drake @ Oct. 07 2003,17:18)]I think you're all being a bit harsh. We've all done stupid dangerous things which with hindsight we know we shouldn't have - most of us get away with it most of the time, these poor bugger's didn't and paid with their lives. That's tragic whatever the sport - if they had got away with it it probably would have enriched their lives. Taking risks is a personal business, you make your choice and live with it. OK your nearest and dearest have to live with it too but my loved ones think I'm a crazy selfish person just for going diving below 30 metres. Alright it could have been done safely had they the experience and preparation for it, but they obviously new it was risky and still thought they could do it so had a go. And if I had been topside with the gear I would have been in there like flash to look for them - some things are worth taking risks for.
Got a family, Jason? What do they think? Are they like-minded? Are the risks acceptable to them? If so, fine.[b said:Quote[/b] (Jason Drake @ Oct. 07 2003,20:47)]Phil - the people I dive with are like-minded. I find risks rewarding. You also take risks which you don't need to - all diving is risky, and none of it 'necessary' - you just appear to have a different view of what's acceptable. No doubt future generations will think the diving we all do is obcenely dangerous, as we do of previous generations. I alone decide what is ok as far as my diving is concerned - and over 1000 dives later I've had a rich diving life so far, and intend fully to be diving for many more years. Macho bullshit? Without taking risks I'd be miserable, bored and feel unfullfilled - instead I have a full appreciation of life. So yes, I think there are worse things than dying. Developing a holier-than-thou attitude towards what is and is not an acceptable way for other people to amuse themselves is one of them. Moiuntaineers, cavers, sky divers, sailors, surfers, probably share some of the same feelings.
I must be missing something, when i look at the drawing of the site the max depth is 100 feet, through the bottom of the tunnel, that makes it a 30 meter dive, i dont get the 9 meter bit[b said:Quote[/b] (peter k @ Oct. 04 2003,11:44)]I think where they've cocked up is thinking it's a 9' dive. They never realised that because there was 100' of water on either side it's still the equivelant of a 30mtr dive.
i agree, its a miracle im still here, we have all done stupid things when we are young.[b said:Quote[/b] (wrecktrekkie @ Oct. 07 2003,19:00)]Jason I with you on this one, it seams no one was ever young and stupid. When I look back about twenty years its a bloody miracle I'm here to day and if you can hold your hand on your hart and say you have never done something that that could have taken your life then you need to get one!