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<font color='#000080'>While at Tekdive i sat in on a fair few of the talks.  One guy was talking about trimix irritating the lungs.  Whats the deal?  Will i be able to do it with asthma??  Depth junkie in me talking here......
 

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<font color='#000080'>I dunno, i think i would like to try it on land 1st to see if thdre was any reaction.  Remember that any lung condition has to be very well controlled to even be allowed in the water.
Oh bugger, trimix is really where i want to go, i want a ferking inspiration and to go plate hunting on the Andrea Dorea.  God dammit andy.
 

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Quote[/b] (Andy the Commie 2 @ April 04 2004,12:53)]
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Quote[/b] ]God dammit andy.
Prog , you asked a question and i answered , very simply.
<font color='#000080'>I just didnt like the answer andy, thats all, i wasnt having a go.  I know you are probably right too.

The guy at tekdive didnt go into the subject of trimix and lung irritation much, that wasnt the subject of the workshop and i didnt want to digress from the point he was making.  I meant to catch up with him later, but i got called into helping with setting up for the next speaker.
Trimix is something i just thought i could progress on to, i havent really looked into it a lot as i still have a long way to go with my experience (and bank balance) before i even start thinking about it seriously.  Plus i want a fair few more seasons of nitrox diving too.
I know that it does constrict the vocal chords, but what he was talking about was excessive production of mucus (which again is a symptom of uncontrolled asthma) not bronchoconstriction.

I know the risks i take every time i get in the water, and i understand them enough to be careful.  I think 18m is fine if asthma is a problem, but for me that would put me off the sport.  I dont like being told i cant dive something, hence the Dive Leader qualification for the depth rating.
 

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Quote[/b] (Andy the Commie 2 @ April 04 2004,12:53)]I have dived with asthmatices before , and i set a depth limit for them , and thats MAX DEPTH of 18 mts.
On what grounds Andy?

As a diver and an asthmatic who has been certified to dive to the limits of my qualifications and who regularly does, I think I'd be a bit miffed if you tried to impose your limits on me.

What are your medical qualifications?

Stu.
<font color='#000080'>I had something similar with my club when a guy said he wouldnt let me dive deeper than 30m cos my twinset was too heavy for me.

I asked him when he qualified as a doctor....

But the fact remains that if the cox or marshal has doubts about your fitness to dive he/she can stop you diving on that particular dive, or limit your depth.

This guy just made an arse of himself cos about a week later i went on a trip where every dive of the weekend was to below 30m.  No-one else on the trip had any problem with me diving (first in last out every dive.....hehe) , but then this guy talks out of his behind so much im surpried he can breathe.
 

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<font color='#000080'>noooo it was my ability to lift the thing, not my wings lift.  We were diving out of a rib (no ladders, not much lifting etc etc), so thats what pissed a lot of the girls off.  One of them even said she struggles more than i do with a 12 and a pony.  At the end of last season i was shore diving with the twins, im crap at ladders tho.  
 
 

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<font color='#000080'>BSAC advice

This is what i go off.  I fit into the category very nicely, i use a preventative steroid.  I think its a bit of an arse that asthma is not as hidden (ie we carry inhalers, my Ex-DO made me get a medic alert bracelet) as some disorders that people can be ashamed of or not want to disclose, such as high blood pressure or even previous bends.
 

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Quote[/b] (PressurE @ April 04 2004,16:13)]as long as my DV dosent have a cat in it I'll be ok!!
Oh that made me laugh!

You wont find me sitting in the pub for a night before a dive either, due to the fact that cigarette smoke is the biggest trigger for me.  But since you dont get much smoke below the water im fine.

My medical referee got really pissed off when his judgement was questioned in him allowing me to dive (by my club saying i was too mad to dive in that case).  It was the fact that people with no proper medical experience were being allowed to make medical judgements about other peoples health.

But as i said before it is up to the marshal/cox.

Incidentaly, following Jack Ingle's talk at Tekdive i will no longer dive with an instructor in my club as i am POSITIVE he cannot shut down his manifold when in a drysuit.  He struggles to do it in the pool in a t-shirt and (yuck) speedos.

Also Andy, if this depth restriction does apply on groups diving on Taurus, i suggest you advertise this.  I for one would be a tad annoyed to travel the length of the country (which it would be for me) to find that i cant dive the planned wreck as you wont let me dive.  Im not saying you shouldnt, im just saying that you need to make your feelings known as this would seriously spoil my day.
 

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Quote[/b] (Porg @ April 04 2004,15:33)]noooo it was my ability to lift the thing, not my wings lift.  We were diving out of a rib (no ladders, not much lifting etc etc), so thats what pissed a lot of the girls off.  One of them even said she struggles more than i do with a 12 and a pony.  At the end of last season i was shore diving with the twins, im crap at ladders tho.  
 
& I have the pictures to prove it. LMFAO when I think back to the Brendan.  
<font color='#000080'>at least i can hold my beer..................  
 

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<font color='#000080'>At 24 i dunno what will happen next, it certainly hasnt got any worse.  I had to have oral steroids a few years ago cos i got a stinking chest infection (never paint your tiny room when you cant open the window).  

Roll on 28 is all i have to say.  
Other trigger for me is cheap orange juice, which is very dodgy really.
 

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Quote[/b] ]now theres an idea......... a DV shaped like a pussy.
I'll go for a full face one!!  


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Dunno about going downwind of Porg
 especially if she has
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<font color='#000080'>Oi watch it!  I will come down there and headbutt your knee caps till your socks fall down.....

sod
 

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<font color='#000080'>Ok i have emailed the DDRC to get an answer, but im not holding out for any good news.  GOD DAMMIT I HATE THE WORLD.  I want to go plate hunting on the Andrea Dorea, dive the Brittanic and U boats off cape wrath, i want to go cave diving to stupid depths and i want a YBOD.

*sob sob*
 

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<font color='#000080'>idle fantasy my arse, i had it all planned............ *waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh* deep breath *waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*
sniff sniff *waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*
 

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Quote[/b] (Juz @ April 05 2004,13:52)]Helen,

One of my regular Trimix buddies has asthma - controlled (technical bit now) the brown and the blue inhalers. I think the brown one is steroidal.

He's been cleared no probs and dives mix without dramas.

Juz
<font color='#000080'>Now THAT is what i want to hear!  
 

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<font color='#000080'>I got this today from DDRC

Dear Helen,

Despite the problems with diving as an asthmatic; diving on helium usually causes no problems as long as it does not cause wheezing. It is a smaller, lighter gas and thus 50% Helium with Oxygen is very useful in A&E for asthma attacks as the gas is easier to breathe. Thus in theory, asthmatics should have no problems with its use under water. The depths and the times of diving may be another factor all together..

It does cause a more rapid loss of temperature if you breathe it for a while, and as you noted it is expensive!

I hope that this helps

Fiona
 
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