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Okay, not that I have anything against the likes of Sea&Sea's cases, but does anyone know which digital cameras you can get a genuine (manufacturers) waterproof case for diving (min 30m rating)

I know there is one for the Canon A20/40 at circa £149 (gulp - still have to add on the camera) but what other options are there?

Okay, and how do non-standard fitmet (sea&Sea et al) compare for durability, containment and price.....

Be gentle, it's my first time in the pornography section....
 

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I would actually be inclined to think the reverse.

The sea and sea housings are made by a manufacturer who know the underwater environment inside out, and make amphibious cameras themselves, whereas Sony / Canon et al don't actually make very good housings for even their own cameras.
The only exception to that is the excellent Sony digital stills cameras with the housings to match. Expect to pay £500 for the camera and probably £2-300 for the housing.

Either that or get a 35-mm Sea and Sea MX5-II for £140 and have much better pics with 35mm film.

(I have both a Nikonos and now a MX5-II, and a digicam, and I prefer the regular 35-mm over digital anyday.)
 

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what was the address of that website for housing you mentione dJay?
 

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Hi Drift - just upgraded to the Olympus C4040Z and PT010 housing (camera was £535 from www.acecameras.co.uk and housing was £220 from www camerasunderwater.co.uk)

Its great kit - housing goes to 30m (if you want more then it will cost £500 for the Ilelite housing)

Also just added W/A lens (Epoque @ £199)

Now skint but happy. One problem is strobe availability (either the DS50.DS125 or S&S 90DX - cant seem to get hold of one anywhere) If you know of any suppliers (mail order/net etc) either in the UK of abroad let me know. If you need any more info contact me

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Forgot to add - if this is your first foray into UW pornography, GET SECOND HAND KIT - its cheaper and you wont be wasting money when you decide to upgrade - I speak from painful experience
 

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Or in the first place, just buy what you want/need for the type of photo's you will be taking in the future! then you won't be wasting any cash...
 

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Well, to be honest.... I'm actually getting a digital camera for on land and the underwater aspect was just going to be a mess about and see....

But at £150 for the Canon A40 housing, I think I'll keep it above water
 

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The epoque DCL20 has given some great results - be careful though, either get a strobe as well or swith off the camera flash - as the WAL is large it gets in the way of the flash and interferes with the lighting (effectively blocks some out. This will be a problem for all WAL`s

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well i got the Epoque WAL, slightly cheaper, but i am not that impressed with it, if you use it close up, it blurs the edges, giving a time warp effect, i read somewhere that people were using them for close and afar work.

I also bought the DS 50 and again, not that impressed, better to use the built in flash for macro/close up work.

the best buy was my macro lens for £35!!!

i bought some step downs 67 - 55 and a set of close up filters (1, 2, 4) stacked them all up on land and they worked fine, but underwater with 25 - 30% water mag between each one gave unusable zoom, in the end, best thing about digital, you can see instant results, no processing costs or waits the best option was to use the number 1 close up filter.

go check my site: www.the-deep-blue.co.uk for the latest red sea photo's.

in answer to some of the above..........cheap skates! £150 for a housing is bl**dy cheap!

i think 35mm gives good quality photo's but you bin 3 - 4 out of 5 photo's and you have to pay for developing, not with digital, i think this is the best format to learn and practice with and when you have mastered it the new digitals will kick 35mm's ar*e.

there have been no major developments in 35mm for a while, the same can not be said of digital.

you can start quite cheap, chose a housing that fits a lot of cameras: Olympus PT 010, then you can look around (www.jessops.co.uk) for a second hand camera i.e a C20xx
then when you have enough money upgrade to one of the C40xx.
i got my C3040 and case for £570
 

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Agree with the above comments. Edge blur using WAL with digital is down to not enough zoom. Back off the subject and zoom closer. Also positioning of the strobe is vital when using WAL - its gotta be well in front of the camarea lens in WAL use otherwise the lens itself will block out some of the light.

I got the DS125 - its excellent and cheap from the USA (if the import duty mob dont catch up with me)
 

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Quick question - how does being underwater affect digital camera results; I'm guessing there will be problems with the water filtering colour, backscatter off crud and autofocus problems - am I in the right area?  

I have a FujiFinePix 4700 which is good enough for my photographic skills (i.e. none). Being extremely tight, I am toying with the idea of building a case for it, and using it diving.  I reckon I can make the box - had to solve that for making a dive light.  BUT, I don't know how being in a box is going to affect the camera's performance.  Any ideas?

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I used a Olympus PT-010 + 3020 (£500 total!) for a week in the Maldives and got pretty good results (photos will be posted soon). I was diving for most of the week with a buddy using standard 35mm and had less problems due to backscatter, not quite sure why but the camera does adjust very well to the lack of light.

The autofocus was also very good - the main problem I had (which is common to the majority of digital cameras) is the delay before the photo is taken (up to 1 sec with mine). This is fine for a stationary target but for a moving target it often means the fish has moved nearer/closer to the lens and so is out of focus.

The effect of the water filtering color was comparable to the 35mm camera - you still either need to be close to the subject or adjust the photo color balance afterwards.

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Mdemon - the box wont be a problem unless it leaks !!!!!. Backscatter will be a problem if vis is poor - better with a strobe. Also you will need access to the buttons - possible failure point.

Also, if the vis is good, autofocus shouldn`t be a problem - I use the PT010+4040Z setup and no probs - even in Capernwray in crap vis I can get some reasonable reults.

Keep it simple, get close, aim up and most pics should be OK in digital
 

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Thanks Kirky,

Yup - leaking would be a BAD thing.  I reckon I may by a cheapo £20 one to start with.  Actually, these give better file sizes for e-mailing, so that may be a good thing too.

I dug up an old waterproof Minolta at 110 I used to use - the button gets squished flat at 8m though.  Unfortunately, with the quality of the pics you get from a 110, I don't think it's really worth resurrecting - best to go digital...


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Well Drifty,

I still think digital video is the way to go in the pornography section but I guess stills can be classed as artistic.  

£149 for a housing for a Canon A40 (ouch !).  Well just between you and me and don't tell anyone else.
http://www.warehouseexpress.co.uk/
Cameras / Canon / Accessories / Waterproof case.
They do the same housing for £99.  It also fits the A10,A20 and A30.

Hope that helps and I know of 2 people who are using these housings and are very pleased with the results.

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Daz
 
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