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Team HPDW - 10/90 for the Boys
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I have 2 spaces available for the above weekend.
Planning on doing the Salsette and one of the LST's out of Lyme Bay:
We'll be on Out-Rage which is the big yellow cat you may have seen if you've dived Weymouth
Cost will be around £45 per day and we may get a shallow drift in on one of the days for a 2nd dive but this is to be confirmed.
pm me or give me a call if you're interested.

Wreck Tour: 11, The Salsette - Divernet

The Best Wreck Dive in Britain - that is the P&O liner Salsette, which lies 43m deep in Lyme Bay. Few wreck-divers will disagree with that top rating, so John Liddiard makes it the first ship in the year 2000 to feature in Diver's inimitable Wreck Tour.Illustration by Max Ellis
The Salsette was definitely the toughest Wreck Tour I've had to put together so far. It took more than the few dives I managed to get on it in 1999. The wreck is big and complicated, 134m long, 34m to the starboard railing and 44m to the seabed. I had to call on the help of several of the Weymouth skippers and pick the brains of many divers to fill in details for this one.
Torpedoed by UB-40 on 20 July, 1917, the P& O liner Salsette might have been just another of many wartime shipwrecks off Britain's southern shores, but since it was first dived in the early 1970s, a plethora of portholes and other non-ferrous fittings have made the Salsette the Mecca of South Coast wreck-diving. Ask any Weymouth skipper and it seems that just about every charter group wants to dive this one.
You need a pretty long dive to see all of the Salsette in one go. I have selected a route that runs roughly from stern to bows; if you don't manage it all, just start at the other end and work backwards on a subsequent dive.
The starting point very much depends on where the boat skipper places the shotline. With digital GPS and colour video sounders, you can challenge the skipper to see how close he can get to a particular point on the wreck.
Beginning at the stern, make for the starboard railing and follow the rounded hull down towards the keel (1). I have heard that a propeller is still there, though I have not seen it myself. Presumably it is attached to the port shaft beneath the keel, because the starboard shaft is clear. A tidal scour gives a maximum depth of 48m here.
Back on deck, the 4.7in gun is still fixed to its mount above the upper deck (2). This is one of the few structures to survive above the main deck. Other cabins and superstructure have long since rotted and crumpled to the seabed.
Going beneath the gun towards the seabed, the upper deck has partially collapsed and skewed to starboard, leaving a swimthrough between decks on the port side (3). The cover of the upper deck ends by a large capstan (4).
The starboard side of the hull and deck has caved in (5) to provide a large cavity full of debris, though the actual torpedo hole is further forwards towards the boiler rooms amidships. With two decks of cabins below the main deck, there is considerable scope for wreck penetration from this hole.
Back on the main deck, a mast lies collapsed to port (6), with a crane just below it. My guess is that the broken area of the wreck just aft of this mast was the site of one of the holds.
A large rectangular hole in the deck (7) is filled with debris and has some steel lattice walkways round the edge of it, suggesting that this was once a gallery above the engine room. It is possible to penetrate forwards from here past large-scale engine-room machinery and out through the torpedo hole in the starboard side below the waterline.
Just forwards are two cylindrical structures at deck level, thought to be water tanks (8). Another large debris-filled hole in the main deck again contains areas of steel lattice walkway, suggesting further engine-room areas (9).
The Salsette once held the coveted Blue Riband for the fastest crossing of the Atlantic and is listed as having eight cylinders of quadruple expansion engine, presumably four cylinders for each shaft, so there is a fair amount of boiler and engine machinery below decks. Part of the problem with being precise here is that the original plans for the Salsette were deliberately destroyed when shipyard companies changed hands many years ago.
Over the starboard rail in this region is an area of open companionway below the main deck (10), another area to explore for penetration to lower decks.
Forward of the engine-room debris, a large winch is situated across the centre line of the ship (11), with another debris-filled hole to lower decks. As nearby holes are engine room and flues, this could have been a ventilation hatch. Photographs of the Salsette show a number of ventilators above this area.
Continuing forwards, the next rectangular debris-filled hole is the remains of the aftmost flue from the boiler room (12). Towards either side of the deck is another pair of capstans. On the starboard side an area of hull plates is missing (13), providing another route below decks.
Moving on towards the bows and back on the main deck, the next hole is again filled with debris, but has some railings on one side (14). Might this have been a stairway? The Salsette had two funnels and the flue from the forward funnel is the next major hole, again, alas, filled with debris (15).
Nearing the front of the area of the superstructure, the wheelhouse has mostly gone, but the outline of the supporting steel frame can still be found on the wooden deck (16), with an upright section remaining in place towards the port side.
In front of the superstructure is a pair of cut-out sections in the deck and hull with a walkway (17) forward to the foc'sle. These provided access to the forward hold. The hull has split open on the starboard side (18) where the bows are settling slightly towards the seabed. On the deck above, a crane is located on a pivoting base (19), now pointing down across the wreck. Just forward of this, a few more plates are missing from the starboard side of the hull, giving access inside.
We are now among the usual bow fittings, with another capstan (20) on either side of the deck, bollards and cleats for tying off mooring ropes. In the centre of the deck is a huge anchor winch (21). Chains stretch forward and are routed through narrow channels to a pair of anchors, held tight against either side of the bow (22). Beneath the bow, the seabed is again deepened by a tidal scour to 46m.
Between the anchor chains is the base of a small crane used for fitting anchors. The mast for this crane is still upright (23), rising to 32m and the shallowest point on the wreck. This makes a good place to release a delayed SMB and ascend.
Although I have described the Salsette in a single route from stern to bows, it will take a few dives before you feel you really know your way around this superb wreck.
Given a chance, there are many parts of the Salsette I would like to explore in more detail and perhaps that is why so many divers want to return again and again. There is just so much to discover.Wreck Tour: 11, The Salsette - Divernet


and one of the LST's (I hope SWM don't mind me cross posting this)


Location Lyme Bay
Wreck ( half )
Depth 50m

It is hard to believe that most wrecks in Lyme Bay were wrongly identified 20 years ago. This one was listed as a trawler. Both Alan Dunster and I independantly identifed the two Landing Ships Tank from Operation Tiger.I then spent hours trying to decide which wreck was which. Identical ships with identical cargo both torpedoed midships. Looking at tha attack pattern and sinking data did not help but from a survivor I learned that 507 launched her forward boats and 531 did not.( both carried 6 )Alan reckons that a small boat is trapped under the bow of the other LST so that is how the two were told apart. We could still be wrong.

This is the stern of "507 "The bow is some distance away.Note identifying features- Prop guards when she is beached or in shallow water. Long landing skegs and shallow draught.







One of the small boats




The 507.



which puts the depth in the 50m range.
 

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The smell of freshly turned delrin is more powerfu
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me too... for Salsette ... as I said just need to check work :)
 

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Silent Knight
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Looks like this ones going to be another family reunion !!! :D

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me too... for Salsette ... as I said just need to check work :)
We can probably squeeze your antique dive gear on the boat David. I'll just cover it with a blanket or something
 

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The smell of freshly turned delrin is more powerfu
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Looks like this ones going to be another family reunion !!! :D

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how many divers you bent on this trip them :)...
if I start the count with me no.1 LOL
 

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Silent Knight
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how many divers you bent on this trip them :)...
if I start the count with me no.1 LOL
Well let me see now - it's probably best if we do it the other way round and ask how many I haven't ! :D :D

You do realise that Team Sub-Clinical are on the boat don't you? You can all swap stories and stuff ;)

Be good to see you again mate

G

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The smell of freshly turned delrin is more powerfu
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You do realise that Team Sub-Clinical are on the boat don't you? You can all swap stories and stuff ;)
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hey if anyone wants to join team PFO patched :)
 

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Going to have to pull out of this at very short notice. Any takers?
 

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The smell of freshly turned delrin is more powerfu
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When you opted for the Salsette it was still scheduled for the Saturday. It's been switched now; I assumed you'd agreed to that. Best check with Run-time Bailey.
look there not going to ask me anything are they.. I get told when I should be there...
dont tell them that sunday would suit me better anyway :)
im here just to complain.. oh no thats Nick Job..

I just want to go diving :)
 

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cool day thanks folks :)
 
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