[witchieblackcat]

Having watched the arguments rage back and forth with very little constructive being done by your organisation I can confirm that when and if I buy a rebreather, it won't be one of yours.

 

[petlowe]

.......................................... GIGGLE....................................

Oh this is going to be a fun one for Brad to come in and refute as clearly your wrong, you just don't know it yet

 

[GSK]

Having watched the arguments rage back and forth with very little constructive being done by your organisation I can confirm that when and if I buy a rebreather, it won't be one of yours.

with an attitude like that, you'll be on the list of people who they won't sell to

they know everyones real name, you'll be on the hit list I tell you

 

[Digger]

Having watched the arguments rage back and forth with very little constructive being done by your organisation I can confirm that when and if I buy a rebreather, it won't be one of yours.

Hate to tell you, but unless you want a thrown together O2 unit with various flaws obvious to even a drunk layperson, you couldn't buy one if you wanted. Well, you could pay for one, but until you receive it I'd suggest you haven't really bought anything...

And what can they, as an organisation, do? They don't have any cards to play. They've been called out so many times it is a joke, and they remain unable to actually do almost all of what they have claimed they will in a sensible timeframe. All they have now is the BS and bluster we've had all along. Except as time goes on it becomes increasingly obvious that it is BS and bluster.

Digs.

 

[copperband]

In my opinion I don't think he cares one iota. I don't think we will ever have production units as it seems that any excuse is used not to deliver. It's like he's had the money and now I'll just gob yhem off with pdfs until people accept the inevitable.

 

[petlowe]

Yup,
My money is with Digg's, at first it smelt like a standard long con, then the photos of the 20 odd scrubber cans turned up and lo they started shipping them but no where near what they were meant to be out of the box aka 100% working 0% compromise safety kit. To me that looked like a fire-sale from a failed product not the dawning of a new age.

The question was then and still is now, will there be technology in this decade that allows them to finish the iCCR as my guess is that until they can either move the sampling to the mouth or miniaturise the pitot technology used in anaesthesia they are pushing the proverbial up a hill trying to sort a chain of problems that all come from that one simple fact that is the simplest place to measure arterial CO2 which is what you need to make a bail out call is the arteries, anything further upstream has these compound problems in them.

PS. Don't go there on trying to sample bloods, it's not even worth thinking about..

 

[Two Hats]

Hmmm, I wonder if OSEL will just suddenly go bankrupt, and sell those assets (bought with various government grants IIRC) at a knockdown price to a sister company?

 

[GSK]

there is an existing "insidious" (I do like that word ) relationship between DL and OS, with the trading company basically owning nothing

 

[Paul Evans]

Hmmm, I wonder if OSEL will just suddenly go bankrupt, and sell those assets (bought with various government grants IIRC) at a knockdown price to a sister company?

Shocked at you, so cynical!!!

You'd think money was moveing around various offshore accounts or something!!!!

 

[42]

there is an existing "insidious" (I do like that word ) relationship between DL and OS, with the trading company basically owning nothing

that was done from the out-set, didn't AD actually suggest that exact relationship to Martin Parker.

 

[philsiswick]

Yup,
My money is with Digg's, at first it smelt like a standard long con, then the photo's of the 20 odd scrubber can's turned up and lo they started shipping them but no where near what they were meant to be out of the box aka 100% working 0% compromise safety kit. To me that looked like a fire-sale from a failed product not the dawning of a new age.

The question was then and still is now, will there be technology in this decade that allows them to finish the iCCR as my guess is that until they can either move the sampling to the mouth or miniaturise the pitot technology used in anaesthesia they are pushing the proverbial up a hill trying to sort a chain of problems that all come from that one simple fact that is the simplest place to measure arterial CO2 which is what you need to make a bail out call is the arteries, anything further upstream has these compound problems in them.

PS. Don't go there on trying to sample bloods, it's not even worth thinking about..

I think you're right. As I've said before, Alex has overreached himself, but his arrogance doesn't allow him to back down and he has to keep plugging on where others would have long given up.

That's one of the attributes of genius, but there is also a fine line between genius and madness....

 

[42]

Don't write it off yet......theres still alot of fail left in this epic.

 

[Paul Evans]

Don't write it off yet......theres still alot of fail left in this epic.

Oh yes, this still has leg's

 

[philsiswick]

Oh yes, this still has leg's

It all depends on the limits of the man's arrogance and hubris.....

 

[GSK]

It all depends on the limits of the man's arrogance and hubris.....

then we won't have a problem

 

[Woz]

To make yourself feel better, spend tonight putting Woz Corners on your Wetnotes. Free and utterly brilliant. Like me.

 

[dammyla]

Deleted. Now I re read my post it was a bit silly

 

[gobfish1]

just to nail the hat on .. this is the guy some think will save us from are selves

Can this be clarified? - Rebreather World read it all and enjoy ,,

ps see the date of the posts ,,

 

[witchieblackcat]

To make yourself feel better, spend tonight putting Woz Corners on your Wetnotes. Free and utterly brilliant. Like me.

I thought you were cheap not free

 

[jturner]

Hmmm, I wonder if OSEL will just suddenly go bankrupt, and sell those assets (bought with various government grants IIRC) at a knockdown price to a sister company?

there is an existing "insidious" (I do like that word ) relationship between DL and OS, with the trading company basically owning nothing

My understanding is this isn't all that uncommon in small companies trading in volatile sectors - makes the risks slightly more tolerable. Could be wrong mind you...