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Moray said:
There goes a red sea trip out the window,because <i don´t dive without them. I get cold fingers even in warm water and then the joints start to hurt.Am I just to old for my age??

Michael

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Warm Water is what you have a bath in - so no gloves in the bath for me.

I don't wear gloves most of the time diving in the UK, including Dover wreck ferreting.

To me the added attraction of warm water diving is getting rid of the gloves, hood, torches and other clutter you need in the UK.
 
No gloves in the Red Sea, this is not a law and it is up to the dive centre to ensure that divers don't wear gloves. However, guides and instructors sometimes wear them.
It is reallyatthe dive centres discresion.

Don't you worry Mike, work on your bouyancy a little and you may be allowed to wear them. Convince me next week:)
 
Simon TW said:
No gloves in the Red Sea, this is not a law and it is up to the dive centre to ensure that divers don't wear gloves. However, guides and instructors sometimes wear them.
It is reallyatthe dive centres discresion.

Don't you worry Mike, work on your bouyancy a little and you may be allowed to wear them. Convince me next week:)
Ha got you (instructors wear them ) saved ...... but you better check it next week .... better safe than sorry

Michael
 
I voted Yes, I do wear them but don't touch anything they are purely there to stop jellies and other stinging creatures from stinging me. I really don't like the thought of being stung by creatures & have a phobia against wasp for this very reason, O and before any bright spark decides to point it out, yes I do know that I'm very unlikely to meet a wasp under the blue :D
 
My other half had an accident a few years ago damaged his hands, lost a few bits of finger, and screwed up the circulation badly in his left hand. Our first trip to the red sea, the guide was very adamant that he couldn't wear even one glove on the hand he has the most problems with. His reasoning being, as someone else has posted, warm water, not long dives, not necessary. So not wanting to make a fuss, he dived without the gloves. The DM's face when he saw hubbys curled up fingers and felt how cold they were after a 40 min pootle was a picture! He was allowed to wear them for the rest of the week with no arguement!
I do understand that some people like to prod where they shouldn't but don't assume that all glove wearers are damaging to the environment. :)
 
It's a no for me...as Jules says it is liberating to have the hands 'free' and be able to work the buttons on the digi camera without any fumbling ;)

Scubachick
 
I seldom wear gloves even in cooler water. If I have to touch something I like to be able to feel it. I doubt wearing gloves makes any difference to people touching things they shouldn't.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
Gloves...

Interesting to hear all the replies.....I'll be honest and say I only started to wear my reef gloves in Curacao to provoke a response.....

The comments regarding Japanese divers and buoyancy is a very fair comment....seen them in action in Palua on a few occassions. Having said that, Americans and booties only encourages them to jump out of the boat and to snorkle stood up and destroy the reef more than the Japanese.

Needless to say, various opinions.

Buoyancy does have to be the major factor but can I ask a question....

If someone is struggling and has to grab a reef to hold on that, for me suggests that the training they received was not good...???

Ciao for now....arrividercci from Italia...catch phrase from Italia...oh, what year? It was Elton Welsby that said it on the ITV coverage...how long ago?

Graham
 
I dive year round in the Red Sea without gloves, even on wrecks (sharp intake of breath from all the wreckies...) and in hundreds and hundreds of dives I have never had a serious cut - perhaps the odd scrape when penetrating the Rosie, but nothing more.

I have to ask, why do divers actually need to wear gloves on a wreck in warm water?

The argument that it is for protection doesn't wash - your not going to be rumaging around (cue David Bellamy) so sharp edges are not an issue. If a diver has to haul himself along with his hands he really has other issues that need addressing first, like buoyancy control and finning technique.

When wearing gloves people will forget themselves and inadvertantly touch down. No only does touching coral do it no good, even potentailly killing it, but by contacting with a wreck, which is a finite resource, you may in your small way add to it's deterioration. I have seen people touch down on coral while wearing gloves, and when I've had a gentle chat back on the boat they genuinely believe that they did not touch it - they were just not aware they had. If you really do need to touch a wreck or coral for whatever reason you will do so with much greater care with unprotected hands!

Consider that the hard and soft corals which grow/grew on wrecks are sensitive to contact and that your contact with what is now a barren (external) surface will interfere with recolonisation of that area - you may crush/kill/wipe away the potential new colonists of that site.

Mulitiply your single (inadvertant) touch by the hundreds of thousands of divers that visit these places and that's a whole lot of damage and a whole lot of regeneration that is not going to happen.

You think I'm being over-dramatic? Look at the photos of the Thistlegorm when she was rediscovered and compare them to the virtually sterile wreck we see now. Most of the corals are long gone, and they will not grow back due to diver pressure. Also, look at the physical damage to the fabric of the wreck. An extreme, but relevent, example.

If you want a Red Sea, etc, that resembles what we dive now in another 20 years, then may I suggest that divers leave the gloves at home. Justification that it's okay to wear gloves because others do so is missing the point - we are all responsible for our own actions, so we can all do our bit. We can all set a good example, and help educate our fellow divers.

All my guests were told no gloves or no diving and I only ever once had a stand off... however, that said, I have made exceptions for a couple of older divers who claimed they had a medical condition that gave them poor circulation, but they knew and agreed the terms of use beforehand!

We do impact on our environment when we dive, so let's try and keep the damage to a minimum.

Oh, and it is law in the at least the Sinai Marine Parks that divers don't wear gloves... (or a knife!).

TG

Tree / wreck / coral hugger (but without contact...)
 
no need to wear gloves, its warm
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
Wear what you want...

My personal opinion is to let everyone decide what they want to wear.

I wear gloves because I want to..sometimes I don't, sometimes I do...depending on the depth and warmth of the water. I do appreciate the arguments against, which are more often sounded than those for.

You choose....I take a delayed SMB on every single dive I do....I had a dive instructor take the piss out of me on a dive boat and on that dive the current took us....guess who was grateful I had an SMB...the dive instructor.

Kit up as you feel comfortable....always....never know when you might need it and if you feel embarressed about wearing reef gloves...keep them in your pocket with your spare mask, spare weights, spare torch and use them needed.

Graham
 
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